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When Nazis Took Manhattan

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  1. KenH

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    February 20, 1939

    “The speeches were explicitly anti-Semitic, and tirades against "job-taking Jewish refugees" were met with thunderous applause. "They demanded a white gentile America.

    One of the main speakers, Gerhard Wilhelm Kunze, the national public relations director of the Bund, pointed to the white supremacy present at America's founding as a nation. "The spirit which opened the West and built our country is the spirit of the militant white man," he preached. Kunze followed the thread of racism that runs through American history to bolster his vision for a whites-only America. He cited anti-miscegenation laws, the Chinese Exclusion Act, Jim Crow policies and immigration quotas. "It has then always been very much American to protect the Aryan character of this nation," Kunze told the audience.”

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    An enormous portrait of George Washington hangs alongside swastika banners and American flags at New York's Madison Square Garden in 1939 during the German American Bund's Pro American Rally.
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    That is what concerns me about the DNC. They were the party of slavery, Jim Crow, segregation (not too long ago....Biden supported segregation). Planned Parenthood had a focus of decreasing the black population.

    Today the DNC advocates policies to keep minorities dependent on the government, has a large antisemitic segment that is growing, Harris and Pelosi have suggested a need for the federal government to determine "truth" and censure opponents of that "truth".


    We have Trump who rejected and denounced White Supremacy, the KKK, Neo-Nazis, David Duke, the Proud Boys, racism...several times and even before he was a presidential candidate.

    But the DNC uses a type of censorship (control of the media) to create a false image that if repeated often enough becomes "true".

    This, IMHO, is the problem with Nazi nationalism. It isn't the patriotism but the oppression, the censorship, and the rasim that the Nazis (and the DNC) magnifies in presence of strengthening the nation.

    We are on a dangerous place eith our nation. People are sheeple.



    You know, it was not that long ago that the DNC fought to keep black students out of white schools.

    More to the point, Biden (Joe Biden....the current POTUS) fought to keep black students out of white schools. Then he refers back and tells people he was working with civil rights leaders, and the sheeple believe him while knowing he was supporting Jim Crow laws.


    Think about that. Biden got most of the black voters by (partially) claiming Trump was a racist who refused to reject white supremacy while he was a civil rights champion.

    But the truth is Trump rejected racism, white supremacy, the Proud Boys, the KKK, and David Duke repeatedly as POTUS AND Biden fought to keep black children out of white schools.

    It is "double-think".


    The DNC is the new Nazi movement. The GOP are the wolves in sheep's clothing already in American churches. The DNC is seeking to implement a type of the government we saw in Nazi Germany and read about in 1984 (not the year, the book).
     
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    You do realize that those folks you go on to describe - white racists - migrated over the the past 30 years, e.g., the Deep South, from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party.
     
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    And, you as a person, are included in the sheeple, Jon, by your own words. Unless, of course, you are not a person, and just an AI bot posting here(but I really don't think that you are an AI bot).
     
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    Wow! You have some kind of severely distorted idea of reality you are evidently living in, Jon.
     
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    No. I have lived in the deep south all of my life. Those guys are still Democrats. I always thought it strange because they are also patriotic. But if you ask you get "my father was a Democrat, my grandfather was a Democrat....Republicans are for rich people".

    To illustrate, of the current and past Presidents one was a Democrat and one a Republican.

    Biden opposed black children being allowed to attend white schools. Trump, even before he was a political candidate, spoke out against David Duke and the KKK. While Biden was fighting integration of races in our schools Trump was financially contributing to minority education.


    If Biden were a Republican and Trump a Democrat your argument would at least appear reasonable. The election of Biden was proof enough that the DNC remains the party of oppression.


    What has, however, changed is that the GOP has moved even farther from big government, foreign wars, agencies like the CIA while the DNC has become the party of war and seeks to expand the government's ability to police its citizens.
     
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    It's not that way in Arkansas. They switched en masse over about 10-15 years from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party.

    That is simply false. The last time the GOP was moving toward less big government, and even then more rhetorical than actual, was during the Reagan presidency, particularly during his first term.
     
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    No. You simply have chosen to support an oppressive government.

    What did Harris and Pelosi say needed to happen? The federal government needed to start determining what is "true" and censure Americans who speak what they consider untrue.

    The DNC has an active antisemitic movement.

    The DNC actively seeks to become a lens through which history is understood, teaching not critical thought (how to think, history as a multifaceted and complex thing) but what to think.

    The DNC has sought to "cancel" people with opposing views.

    The DNC platform is pro expanding the powers of the federal government insofar as it's control over people's lives.

    The DNC is the party of foreign wars. Harris' platform is to use military funding not to strengthen our military but to strengthen the military of our current allies (it is a global view).


    Reading your post (the OP) the DNC are the modern Nazis.
     
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    I'm not in Arkansas. And Arkansas is not in the Deep South.

    Right now the GOP platform is to give education to the states. It is to give the abortion issue to the states. It is to end tax on social security. It is to reduce federal agencies. It is to give policing within the states to the states.

    Right now the DNC platform is for the government to censure citizens who disagree with the government line (only fines were suggested at this time, by Hartis and Nancy Pelosi). It is to increase government involvement in foreign wars, build the military of friendly nations, end private health insurance (Harris said this last month), have a government run medical system, have a government provided secondary education system, have the government provide housing and housing incentives, have the government monitor grocery prices.

    The DNC is for big government. The GOP is for small government.
     
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    I was using the broader definition.

    "The Deep South is a geographic and cultural region in the southern United States. The Deep South can include or exclude some states depending on the context. It commonly refers to the following states: Alabama, South Carolina, Mississippi, Georgia, and Louisiana. Some definitions include Texas because of its history of slavery and as a member of the Confederate States of America. Some definitions also include North Florida and Arkansas. The state of Texas, Louisiana, Georgia, Alabama, Florida, Mississippi, and South Carolina were the first States to secede and form the Confederate States of America."

    source: Which States Are Considered The Deep South?
     
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    You don't know whom I ultimately voted for, or if I even voted in the presidential race. And I am not going to tell you.

    I am not a member of either the Democratic Party or the Republican Party. I don't think that my philosophy of government views as a minarchist classical liberal libertarian would be a good fit in either major party.
     
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    I am a sheeple in terms of being a Christian. But I have not bought the DNC lies (where you were fooled into taking the bait hook line and sinker). I also don't buy the GOP lies.


    You proved this on the other threads when you said that Trump rejecting racism was my opinion. You sided with Harris in claiming that Trump refused to disavow white supremacy publicly even knowing Trump disavowed white supremacy, racism, the Proud Boys. David Duke, Neo-Nazis, and the KKK several times (over 30 times in speeches on national television).

    You are practicing "double-think" because you have to "believe" your masters even when you know what they say is false.
     
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    I would use the normal definition. Arkansas is in the South, but not the Deep South.
     
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    Okay. Live and let live. :)
     
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    So you are saying that you are not like the rest of us, whom you pejoratively call "sheeple".
     
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    @KenH

    Here is what I mean by you being a sherple (just like the many on the other side):

    You stated that my belief Trump denounced White Supremacy was an opinion while your opinion is Trump never denounced White Supremacy.

    Harris says Trump never publicly denounced White Supremacy and is a racist.



    You view truth as opinion and lies as valid opinions if those lies originate with your masters.
     
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    I have only one Master. (Matthew 23:10)
     
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    Is "sherple" a worse pejorative in your vocabulary than "sheeple"?
     
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    I have only one Master. (Matthew 23:10)
     
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    Yes and no. The difference is not the "sheeple" but the shepherd.

    You believe many false things because the DNC told you to believe it. By your own admission you didn't bother to check for yourself (like you didn't realize Hillary said Trump stole the election and was an Illegitimate Predident because you didn't check it out yourself).

    You believed that Trump never publicly fnounxed White Supremacy because that is what the DNC tells its sheeple.


    But I also have a Shepherd, and I try my best ti obey Him without question. My Master, however, is not one of the powers fighting to dominate a worldly kingdom.


    So the correct answer is yes and no.
     
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