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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by percho, Nov 10, 2024 at 1:24 PM.

  1. percho

    percho Well-Known Member
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    Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel [1 Cor 15:1-4 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:] of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein [the gospel of Christ] is the righteousness of God revealed from [out of] faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

    The just one died and the just one was made alive again. The gospel.
    1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
    Gal1:1 YLT Paul, an apostle -- not from men, nor through man, but through Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who did raise him out of the dead --

    Hab 2:4 Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just [One, Christ] shall live by his faith.
    Romans 1:17 YLT For the righteousness of God in it is revealed from faith to faith, according as it hath been written, 'And the righteous [Just One] one by faith shall live,'

    Who is the only just one who has lived and died?

    Is, "The just shall live by faith," [ Ὁ δὲ δίκαιος ἐκ πίστεως ζήσεταιa ] fulfilment of, "the just shall live by his faith," [ ὁ δὲ δίκαιος ἐκ πίστεώς μου ζήσεται ] ?

    Is the obedient death of the Just One, "the faith," by which you are saved?
     
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    ....literally, "the righteous by his stedfastness liveth"

    YLT:
    4 Lo, a presumptuous one! Not upright is his soul within him, And the righteous by his stedfastness liveth. Hab 2

    Quoted by Paul as:
    17 For the righteousness of God in it is revealed from faith to faith, according as it hath been written, `And the righteous one by faith shall live,` Ro 1

    11 and that in law no one is declared righteous with God, is evident, because `The righteous by faith shall live;` Gal 3

    38 and `the righteous by faith shall live,` and `if he may draw back, My soul hath no pleasure in him,` Heb 10

    Compare 'stedfastness' to:
    6 who will render to every man according to his works:
    7 to them that by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and incorruption, eternal life: Ro 2

    Conclusion:
    18 But say may some one, Thou hast faith, and I have works, shew me thy faith out of thy works, and I will shew thee out of my works my faith:
    24 Ye see, then, that out of works is man declared righteous, and not out of faith only; Ja 2
     
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    Rom 5:19 YLT for as through the disobedience of the one man, the many were constituted sinners: so also through the obedience of the one, shall the many be constituted righteous.
    Gal 3:24 YLT so that the law became our child-conductor -- to Christ, that by faith we may be declared righteous,


    Must, the obedience of the one of R5:19, be equal unto and or be the same as, by faith, of G3:24 for being made, constituted, declared, ordained, appointed, be or anything else righteous?

    Yet we also have Titus 3:7 YLT
    that having been declared righteous by His grace <[to the of that to grace], heirs we may become according to the hope of life age-during.
    Yet compare that to Eph 2:8 YLT for by grace ye are having been saved, through [the] faith, and this not of you -- of God the gift,

    Through, the faith, in the TR so do not know why Young did not translate as so.

    Is, the faith of E2:8, the same as, before the coming of, the faith and the faith, having come of Gal 3:23,25 and or the obedience of the one of Rom 5:19 by which we are made righteous?

    All of this also makes of the wording of Rom 3:26 YLT for the shewing forth of His righteousness in the present time, for His being righteous, and declaring him righteous who is of the faith of Jesus.
     
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