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Dr. Bob

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This thread is NOT for discussion. It is simply to define the terms and the categories of the paradigm known as "King James Version Only". The moderators of this forum may post here to "tweak" the definitions; all others are "read-only".

KJVO #1 "I PREFER THE KJV"

This group believes the KJV is the best single English translation available today. This is based on its history, usefulness, beauty, etc. It does NOT mean that there might not be a better English translation possible and that other present translations are "bad".

These are only marginally KJVonly and should NOT be lumped in with discussion on other issues.
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KJVO #2 "I BELIEVE THE UNDERLYING GREEK/HEBREW TEXT OF THE KJV IS BEST"

This group believes that the MT (Majority Text) or the TR (Textus Receptus) -- even though there are obvious differences in the two -- are "superior" to all other Greek documents and more closely reflect the original autographs. They do not believe that the TR or the Majority Text is perfect in any one printed copy. They believe that the King James Version, based on this text, is the clearest and most accurate translation that we have in English today.
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KJVO #3 "I BELIEVE IN THE RECEIVED TEXT ONLY"

This group would consider the TR has either been "supernaturally preserved" or even "inspired" and hence remain inerrant through the providential hand of God. They believe that the TR is verbally identical to the original autographs.

They consider any English translation from "inferior" Greek texts of W/H (Wescott & Hort) or UBS/Nestle-Aland (United Bible Society) as to be sub-standard and inaccurate.
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KJVO #4 "I BELIEVE THE KING JAMES IS INSPIRED"

This group, by far the majority of the KJVonly, believe that the KJV itself, as an English translation, is inspired and therefore inerrant. A person who would dare to defend or even use another translation of the Bible are rejecting the "true" and "real" Bible, the only Word of God.

To this group, any "change" (added words, omitted words or verses, different choices of English words, modern words) is deviation from the truth and therefore "corrupt". The standard is always the KJV. They believe that God providentially gave the translators wisdom and guided them so that they translated all of the words correctly. As a result, they believe the King James Version is the perfectly preserved Word of God in the English language.

"The King James Bible Alone = The Word of God Alone."
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KJVO #5 "I BELIEVE THE KJV IS NEW REVELATION"

This group believes that the KJV was supernaturally inspired in such a way that the English text itself is inerrant revelation. The Bible was "re-inspired" in 1611, rendering it in the English language.

These would say that the Greek/Hebrew should be changed to agree with the "new" revelation in 1611 and that all translations into other languages (Spanish, French, etc) should match the KJV.
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When making a point, discussing an aspect of this position or debating an issue, PLEASE use the correct KJVO "number". It is WRONG to lump a very slight leaning to the KJVO position (#1-2) with the mainstream KJVO (#3-4) or with the extreme KJVO (#5).

Thank you.
 
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1. If you are going to start a thread in this forum, you must be clearly identified as a Baptist since this is a Baptist-Only area.

2. As such, only BAPTISTS are allowed to post on any thread in this Forum. Non-baptists may feel free to start a thread on the same subject in the "Other Religions" forum.

3. Do not start a thread with an attack or a flame as your premise. This is in violation of BB rules.

4. Do not bring dirty laundry from another forum into this forum. This one has enough of its own.

5. Remember that we're presenting ideas and not destroying people. Teach patiently as 2 Tim 2 says, or don't post at all.

6. Do not attack the other poster; if you want to question the opinion, that's fine. But do so in a God honoring way. Don't attack the person; the goal is to build up and win for the truth's sake.

7. It is not acceptable to question someone's salvation relative to Bible preference. KJVOs have said, "Get saved and you'll understand 17th century English." MVs have said, "If you were as spiritual as me, you'd leave the KJV behind." Neither will be tolerated.

8. Stop turning every single thread into a KJV vs. all other versions discussion. If it's off topic, it's going in the trash. Continual violations of this will result in discipline.

9. Certain terms are off limits in this forum.
For example:
  1. The KJVO crowd will not not refer to the Modern Versions as "perversions," "satanic," "devil's bibles," etc...nor call those that use them "Bible correctors," "Bible doubters," etc.
  2. The MV crowd will not refer to the KJVOs as "cults," "heretics," "sacrilegious," etc...nor refer to the KJV in derisive terms such as "King Jimmy's Bible," "Pickled Preserved Version," etc.
10. If a thread is going "off topic" after 5 pages, it will be shut down by the moderators. Feel free to start a NEW thread on a cognate area that was left unresolved.

11. If you start a thread, at any time you may request that the thread be closed, but the Forum Moderators reserve the right to leave the thread open or close the thread at their discretion.

If you have a problem with any of these basic rules of civility and Christian courtesy, you know where the door is. If you violate them, you will be SHOWN where the door is.

[ May 19, 2006, 05:41 PM: Message edited by: Squire Robertsson ]
 
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Squire Robertsson

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Bump to keep this active.
 
Dr. Bob

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:thumbsup: And once again, to keep from automatically disappearing into St Catherine's trashpile, we update the thread.
 
Squire Robertsson

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For the last six months or so, with the Admin Teams concurrence, I have closed threads when they reach 135 or so posts. Mind you, I am not all that efficient. So, if I go to Costco or Sunday Services, some threads grow like Topsy before I can post the Six Hour Warning.

I believe six hours is enough time for folks to post their finishing thoughts. However, I understand there are still points to be discussed. So, folks are free to start a new thread dealing with those points.
 
Salty

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Why is it so funny - I will be bumping this every 15 years
(or is it every 15 days) since getting old - I get so confused.
 
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