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    Faith # 4

    When it's a matter of grammar, it's only debateable as a matter of Greek syntax, and not "understanding" which after all, is always seeking to exalt itself. However, our understanding must be subject to rigorous academic discipline, otherwise it may develop along gnostic lines. I haven't come...
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    Faith # 4

    Yes it is, in the narrow point of correctly translating Gal 2:20, which is not translated "faith of the Son of God." HELPS WORD STUDIES (arxēgós) does not strictly mean "author," but rather "a person who is originator or founder of a movement and continues as the leader – i.e. 'pioneer leader...
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    Faith # 4

    This is the wrong interpretation. You need to distinguish the subjective genitive from the objective genitive in Greek. In Gal 2:20, we have what is called a genitive of the object, which occurs after substantives which denote an internal or external activity,—a feeling, expression, action...
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    The Gospel that Calvinism cannot believe.

    Law doesn't ordinarily allow for the vicarious infliction of punishment; and the law of Moses was no exception, except in the specific case of sureties. It is only pursuant to a covenant (a law of sureties) that sureties are allowed. Christ's sacrifice relates specifically to the New Covanent...
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    No person can come to Christ by their own freewill ! 3

    What you do continuously. And your question makes no sense, as "If the son sets you free, you will be free indeed" is plainly based on the premise that a person has that ability to listen to the son even whilst not free, unless called to judgement by God ahead of time because of sin, as were...
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    No person can come to Christ by their own freewill ! 3

    The question makes no sense, as free will proper only comes with faith. So I think you mean, 'freedom to hear God'; as to which Paul heard the voice of Christ whilst still in his sins. Drawing comes with hearing, and hearing comes with listening to God's voice, which depends partly on us but...
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    Faith # 4

    Not sure what spirit you are of, given that I conceded faith comes by the Spirit.
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    Faith # 4

    Faith is of the "heart" (Rom 10:10) where I read that heart is "the entire inner person, encompassing the mind, will, and emotions—it's the spiritual and moral center from which all decisions, thoughts, and desires originate." As to faith, I take it "heart" principally infers "mind + will,"...
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    No person can come to Christ by their own freewill ! 3

    The ability to come to Christ depends on one's willingness to hear the Father. "Free will" as such is not given until faith comes and "the Son has set a person free," and is what is confusing you. The issue of coming to Christ doesn't depend on free will, so much as willingness to hear the...
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    No person can come to Christ by their own freewill ! 3

    The condition for the Father drawing is given in Jn 6:45. If one is willing to listen to the Father, then he will draw you to Christ. Jn 6:45 "It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by God.’Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from him comes to me." Seems simple...
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    Calvinists

    You're reading too much into John 6:44-45. Jesus is stating the purpose of coming to Jesus, why God ordains it, that the Father enables it, as well as the conditions for coming to Jesus in v. 45. Jesus doesn't say that "every person drawn will be raised on the last day:" see the parables of...
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    Calvinists

    Not in my view. The text does not say so. The verb tense of δύναμαι (is able) is present. The present is therefore inferred. I am talking about what the prophets said. Did they get it wrong? I think not. Present is present. Psalm demonstrates why the elect are elect, as opposed to other men...
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    No person can come to Christ by their own freewill ! 3

    And it's not in dispute. What's in dispute is your Calvinistic conclusion denying free will. Au contraire: Christ's statement is predicated on the exercise of free will by men, which you repudiate. For it is you who charge God with not showing mercy, independently of the exercise of free will by...
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    Calvinists

    That's right. No-one cares. Even "The Bolsec Controversy on Predestination, From 1551 to 1555: The Statements of Jerome Bolsec, and the Responses of John Calvin, Theodore Beza, and Other Reformed Theologians. Edited by Philip C. Holtrop. 2 vols. Lewiston, N.Y: Edwin Mellen Press, 1993. $199.95"...
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    Calvinists

    Yours is a human interpretation with a Calvinist slant, in the sense that it is rooting Christ's words as applying to God's design and supervening purposes before the foundation of the world, whereas the more natural context to John 6:44 is the temporal God<->human dynamic in the here and now...
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