Recent content by Eternally Grateful

He did not need a savior before that fact? This is quite amazing you would even think this. because it certainly did not come from the bible He had never sinned. so would not suffer the consequences of that sin and again, You have not shown me what occurred between the first group and...

round and round we go. Once again I will try You did not see the verses I have given as proving my point. Just like I do not believe the one verse you give proves your point (Which is why i suggested we stop) However I have asked you multiple times now to respond to this.. and show where I am...

amen, we are again in 100% agreement lets say this about church history, It is written by men It is not inpired It is mostly catholic. so I want to look to the word of God. not church history. It means nothing to me. The jews tried to use their history against Christ.. Christ used the word...

so you proved the trinity without the word trinity. thank you, we are 100% in agreement I have showed you many passages I feel support my view. It would be the same. Again.. this is the best analogy I can offer. I will repost.. EG said He (Adam) was created natural. he was created a human...

Post where God said he is a triune God. this is why sometimes these discussion are frustrating.

I get a red flag when I see us talk about ISMS. I do not think this is a calvinist or catholic issue. Lets stick to the word (As you say) I feel When we are in the position we feel we have to fight Calvinism or Catholicism at all costs. we become blinded by that issue. and are unable to see...

I did not say I would agree to disagree. What I did was say we should probably stop, because we are not going to get anywhere. What you are saying makes no sense to me. You have tried numerous times to explain it. and its like we just go in circles. there is a time for conversation to end...

ok there is no need to go on, we will just never see eye to eye. Again, I do not know where you came up with this. I have never heard what you are saying in my life. Is this new age thinking or what denomination does this come from? Just asking. so I can try to study to see where its roots are

its called spiritual seperation, Its called spiritual death. In adam ALL DIE In Christ (through the cross) shall all be made alive All I have to do is prove before Adam and Eve sinned that they had not sinned. at even any time. to know they were in right standing with God.. your passage in...

No they are not. if they were, they would not be dead and need to be born again. No they are condemned because of unbelief (John 3) He most certainly was God was with him the moment he was created. I do not know where you are getting your thinking from.. Based on redemption which was paid by...

Um no. all men are not in a relationship with God. we are not in a relationship until we are born again Yes, and what was the promise that was fulfilled? was it not the cross? Yes, based on repentance. But not because we turned. But because we had faith. He who believes will never perish...

I did not ask this Jon, I asked if they were in a relationship the moment God created him, What sperated the two when God created adam if they were not united? They lost unity when adam sinned. yes.. Yes. Yes. so as God said, he passed over the sins previously committed. Based on what? yes...

A child of God is resurrected. A child of Satan is delivered Rev 20: . 13 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. 14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is...

why not? Why did adam and God not have this relationship? Adam was born perfect. what caused any seperation? I see God gave man free will and tested him.

So Adam when created was not in that unique fellowship. or after he sinned? His sin disqualified him from having any relationship with God.. He had to (like us) be born again.