Recent content by Piper 2

I don't disagree with us being under bondage to sin and death. You said, and I quote," Christ came under the bondage of sin and death. ." That is not in the Bible. And no need to be so condescending. I've spent many years studying Greek and Hebrew. Actually Christ suffered the wrath of God...

Brightfame52 said: Exactly what scripture says Christ came under the bondage of sin and death? Neither of those verses say that Christ came under the bondage of sin and death. I will stick with the words of scripture. 1 Peter 2:24 says He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, that we...

You're being silly. My point is that you boast about only believing exactly what scripture says, yet in this thread, you have only one post with 3 verses. In the Divine Justice thread, you have one verse, period. It is a bunch of conjecture and illogical conclusions that you make. And if anyone...

Why do you feel the need to call PSA heresy? You attack the faith of anyone who differs from you and it is repugnant. Thousands if not millions of solid evangelical exegetes believe in the Penal Substituionary Atonement. Are you calling all of them adherents of heresy?

Exactly. " your faith does not actually exist in Scripture any more than Mormonism exists in Scripture. " He questions the faith of anyone who does not believe his theory. It is repugnant for a Christian to do that.

No, No, No. I've been married for 39 years to the best girl in the ....... rats, you said "for me."

Good thing you are not a pastor. You have no idea how to cogently present truth. You talk in weird circles and dance around what you are trying to get at. Just say what you want to say. Some people will suffer more than others. This.... "suggests that the torment will be limited so that someone...

Naaaaah. Tulip is all true.

Some girl must have been hoodwinked, though, right? I mean, you are married.... jk brother.

Exactly. I don't know what Van is trying to prove, maybe that people suffer for only a little while? From his initial post, "suggests that the torment will be limited so that someone who died in unbelief at an early age will not suffer the same as someone who denied access to God's truth to...

He goes on these weird hunts to see if anyone believes his little unique things..

What a ridiculous interpretation. It is eternal Torment.

Welcome. I live in Northeast Texas.

They must twist the Bible in its simple clear statements into something that it is not.

God's wrath was absorbed by Jesus Christ on the cross.