How do you handle anonymous letter in your church?

I haven't yet went back and read all the previous posts, so I don't know, but is Carolina a counselor as you claim to be? That makes a big difference. I am sure people who confide in a counselor do not want them going and spreading it all over the internet.

 

Tell you what guys, if anyone of you can figure out who i counseled and who the pastor is, i will personally give you $5,000.

I begining to think i am on candid camera with all this nonsense.


It is NEVER considered gossip if no one knows who you are talking about most people actully know that...look it up for yourself.

 

And you think it is ethical to be talking about someone you counsel?

 

Goodnight Donna way past our bedtimes

as I keep looking around for the camera's

 

First, no one has attacked you. They simply pointed out that it is not right for Christians to gossip (which includes telling stories about people without providing all the details) and that it is a serious breach of Ethics for a Christian Counselor to provide any information regarding one of their clients in such an international public forum.

Sorry, but no I don't think so.

No one has "slammed" you. They have disagreed with you and provided reasons why they disagree. They have pointed out errors in judgment (or lack thereof) when you took it upon yourself to post some very private and confidential information with which you have been entrusted. They have attempted to instruct and encourage you from the Scriptures.

This is an open public forum and the BB members are free to discuss, debate, and engage anything (and/or anyone) that is posted here. It is not your private playground designed for you say whatever you wish without discussing your statements with the other posters. If you want a place where you can post whatever you want and not deal with other posters engaging you then you need to start your own website and don't allow anyone else to post there. The thread will reamin open so long as the BB Posting Rules are obeyed.

[Edited to correct a misspelled word.]

[ May 04, 2006, 08:50 AM: Message edited by: Bible-boy ]

 

you will have to show me where this is true. you and these others do not know the ethics of counseling (that's for sure} it certainly isn't what is being said it is. I know my rights and the rules. i have broken no rules on this baord or in my prfession. If you can prove i have i would like to see proof!

if not, let me debate the way everyone else is allowed to.

 

So, it is ethical in your profession to take what someone being counseled says to you and tell other people about it? Is that what your saying?

 

Donna show me where it ISN'T unethical. what i have done is just fine. it's NOT gossip, since you don't know who it is, there is no rule saying a counselor cannot give examples of experences with clients on a board, forum, or even to other people in person if you do not say their name or info that would give away who they are. you guys are fishing without bait.

Why are YOU so concern with ALL my affairs and everything I write? Do you like me so much you have to follow me around and spend so much time contradicting everything i say?

Do you not have better ways to spend your time?

$5,000 Donna come on i bet you could use that kind of money?

 

you will have to show me where this is true. you and these others do not know the ethics of counseling (that's for sure} it certainly isn't what is being said it is. I know my rights and the rules. i have broken no rules on this baord or in my prfession. If you can prove i have i would like to see proof!

if not, let me debate the way everyone else is allowed to. </font>[/QUOTE]I know what I have learned about Christian Ethics while stuying the subject at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary. While this does not deal specifically with the ethics of Christian Counseling it sure covers the basics of how (and the reasons why) Christians ought to deal with issues like gossip and trusted information etc. Tell ya what, I'll print out a few of your previous posts and go talk with the Professors that teach our PhD and MDiv in Christian Counseling programs here at SEBTS and see what they think. I'll let ya know what they say about the Ethics of Chriatian Counseling.

Likewise, that same old sad argument that you have not broken any BB rules simply does not fly. All you have to do is review back over some of your old posts that Moderators have had to edit. On the majority of them you will find a note from the Moderator explaining what was edited out, why they took that action and which BB rule has been violated.

 

I know what i said and it wasn't enough to edit. it was edited to show i may have said something wrong, but in reality wasn't. You see I saved most all my post and I am not doing anything wrong and no one has been able to show me what i have said wrong. no quotes nothing, in fact several posters have told me they went to the mods to complain about my mistreatment on this board saying it was mean and unfair.

Go ahead and try and find a friend to back up your claims that I have done something unethical they would just be lying.

 

Any christian knows, when someone tells you something in private, such as a counseling session, it is private and not to be discussed. It is against christian ethics to do so. It is betraying a trust.

sad, sad, sad

As has been said before, this is an open public forum. I am flattered though you give so much attention thinking I follow you around.


People who teach ethics are lying?

Frenchy, just stick to facts.

 

Hey Donna i posted this question on gossip on a new thread, go to it and post your concerns there. I am very interested to see what others have to say about it. of course if certain names say what i think they will say. then the source will have to be considered.

 

Sorry Frenchy but that will not fly either. I personally have had to edit many of your posts for making personal attacks and failing to show grace to your fellow posters. It is good that you have the original posts so you can see exactly what words were edited out. I generally always leave a note as to why I edit a post and what BB rules have been violated. Therefore, you have the example and direct quotes at your disposal.

Likewise, as a Moderator I can not recall ever receiving a single PM from another poster defending you and complaining about any mean or unfair treatment someone felt you received.

What an amazing statement. You are saying that solid Bible believing conservative Christian Professors that teach PhD and MDiv courses here at SEBTS, and who have no idea who you are, nor do they participate on this message board, would simply lie about you! Why would they do such a thing? Do you believe that the entire world is out to get you?

[ May 04, 2006, 09:00 AM: Message edited by: Bible-boy ]

 

Wow how sad...


Carolina, wanted to welcome you to the BB. There seem to be alot of California newbies lately.

 

What is sad and scary is that anyone is actually going to frenchy for counseling. I am concerned for the kind of counsel they would receive. And it is unethical to tell about a counseling session without the permission of those involved, whether or not their names are used. Take this from a pastor of 25 years and a counselor for over 27 years.

Bro Tony

 

Please tell me how this has anything to do with the op? I think this threads been off topic long enough don't you.

 

I'm sure all pastors get anonymous letters, not sure what our pastor does with them. He has to read it to find out it is anonymous, but what he does with the information in it I don't know.

 

I tell you one thing...

I ABSOLUTELY read anonymous letters with $5,000 in them.

 

LOL!

 

Look Bible Boy says he is going to GOSSIP about me to his fellow college professors

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