The Triquestra - Holy or Unholy Trinity

Ed, I cannot think of ANY ancient symbols that weren't used by pagans at one time or another. Yet, when people read that Terry Watkins trash, a few of'em actually BELIEVE it w/o taking the time to see if he's telling the truth, the WHOLE truth, or ANY truth.

 

are you really serious? come on!! accept the fact that you are wrong, and then take the next step and admit to others that you are wrong! it will do ya good! lol

the fact is, the "truth" is, you are running away from the discussion and using what sound like rather lame excuses to avoid addressing the fact that you will still use a Cross despite it's having pagan origins, and yet, you criticize others for doing the very same thing, namely, using a symbol for the Trinity that may have also had pagan origins.

these are the facts, and your running away from them for trumped up pious sounding reasons only points out the kind of character you have.

Consider the following:

Pro 1:7 esv The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge; fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Pro 9:6-9 esv
(6) Leave your simple ways, and live, and walk in the way of insight.
(7) Whoever corrects a scoffer gets himself abuse, and he who reproves a wicked man incurs injury.
(8) Do not reprove a scoffer, or he will hate you; reprove a wise man, and he will love you.
(9) Give instruction to a wise man, and he will be still wiser; teach a righteous man, and he will increase in learning.

Pro 10:17 esv Whoever heeds instruction is on the path to life, but he who rejects reproof leads others astray.

Pro 13:18 esv Poverty and disgrace come to him who ignores instruction, but whoever heeds reproof is honored.

Pro 15:32 esv Whoever ignores instruction despises himself, but he who listens to reproof gains intelligence.

Pro 15:33 esv The fear of the Lord is instruction in wisdom, and humility comes before honor.

Pro 19:20 esv Listen to advice and accept instruction, that you may gain wisdom in the future.

blessings,
Ken

 

you guys just don't get it do you?

standing has given scripture to back his belief, he has given several posts to show the triquesta came from the pagan camp.

He is right from backing out. The Bible teaches that if they will not receive your report to have nothing to do with them. I am suprised he stayed in the thread this long.

He really must be concerned about christians holding onto that which God detests and you belittle him as if he were satan himself.

sfiC has not spoken any lies and you brand him as one by saying he need to come back and admit he is wrong? Take a long look in the mirror of God's Word and you may find if you truly look that you are the ones that are wrong.

 

The tiger is an animal created by God and not meant to be pagan. The symbols that man holds on to are just that--symbols--not created by God.

Here is a link called "The Symbol of the Tiger"

http://www.bronners.net/symbolofthetiger.html


The Symbol of the Tiger

The tiger symbolizes power, mystery, and intelligence. Its striped coat serves as camouflage, while patterns on its forehead symbolize the Chinese mark of wang , meaning king. Regarded as the undisputed ruler of its domain, the "King of the Forest," has influenced Asian village life for centuries. It is said that in mythical times a deal was struck between tigers and humans so that each would respect the other’s territory.
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Just because the Asians believe in the mysticism of the tiger does not mean that a tiger itself is pagan. God created the tiger. Man creates pagan symbols, like the triqueta. God did not create the triqueta--man did.

And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. (Genesis 11:6)

 

rsr,

did you know the supposed baptist page you got that tiger off of has links to free tarot readings? and horoscopes by tarot?

no wonder people are trying so hard to keep seeing the triune God in the triqueta... they are allowing the occult to be their decision maker.

 

and Linda64,

You are correct. The tiger is not pagan. Some may say it is, but it was created by God. The triqueta had roots in paganism far before the disciples were called christians first in Antioch.

 

As to the triquetrous symbol on the NKJV: I am glad to hear it is gone. Why a modern publisher would put such an obscure symbol on a Bible escapes me. I can't even find it in this 2000+ page American Heritige dictionary I have here. And see how much confusion and strife it has caused!

Now I think that StandingFirmInChrist has the moral high ground here. He stood up to a great deal of personal abuse without returning in kind. He isn't teaching heresy. He is a brother in Christ. Why did you all abuse him so?

Some are prone to making personal attacks. This clearly opposed to the teachings of Christ IMO.

Even if you are right in your doctrine you are wrong to try and destroy a brother. Try tasting some of your own venom. If it has a sweet taste you had better get your face back in the Scriptures and your knees on the floor.

Take a lesson from a gardener. IF you pull the big weed growing close to your herb you will uproot both the weed and the herb. The roots are intertwined. In fact, part of the tap root will remain in the soil to sprout a new weed. But the herb is gone forever. You will either go hungry or eat weeds.


A.F.

 

Ye shall know the tree by the fruit it bears - Jesus

 

SFIC said:

I will not post again in here. It is a shame when people who claim to be of God turn their ears from hearing the truth.

Oh, sheesh. **Insult removed**.

[ May 16, 2006, 06:35 PM: Message edited by: blackbird ]

 

Diggin said:

standing has given scripture to back his belief

Nonsense. The triquetra was used as a Christian symbol centuries after the canon was closed. There's no Scripture to declare it a pagan symbol.

SFIC's sources were dodgy Web pages, and like many KJV-onlyists with an axe to grind, he sided with pagans instead of Bible believers.

**Insult removed**

[ May 16, 2006, 06:37 PM: Message edited by: blackbird ]

 

Linda said:

Just because the Asians believe in the mysticism of the tiger does not mean that a tiger itself is pagan.

Just because the Wicca wackos believe in a pagan symbolism for the triquetra does not mean that the triquetra itself is pagan.

**Insult removed**

[ May 16, 2006, 06:38 PM: Message edited by: blackbird ]

 

Hey no fair! You cheated!

Question #2
Where did the symbol for modern medicine come from?
It can either be:


or


Does it have anything to do with this?
Numbers 21
8 Then the LORD said to Moses, “Make a fiery serpent, and set it on a pole; and it shall be that everyone who is bitten, when he looks at it, shall live.” 9 So Moses made a bronze serpent, and put it on a pole; and so it was, if a serpent had bitten anyone, when he looked at the bronze serpent, he lived.

 

Does it have anything to do with this?

Nope. The snake on a pole is the symbol of Asclepius, the Greek demigod of medicine. The two snakes on the winged pole is a cadeuceus, a symbol of Hermes.

It was a Babylonian symbol before Moses ever set up Nehushtan.

 

Ding Ding Ding we have a winner! But what was God doing telling Moses to make something that might have been confused with a pagan symbol?



And we also see that man turned the one God commanded Moses to make into an evil thing, not God.

2 Kings 18
4 He removed the high places and broke the sacred pillars, cut down the wooden image and broke in pieces the bronze serpent that Moses had made; for until those days the children of Israel burned incense to it, and called it Nehushtan.

People have alluded to this earlier, but are we therefore to strike the rainbow from our Bibles because gay activists have hijacked a symbol of God's promise to us?

How about this. If you are "weak" like in 1 Corinthians 8, don't use the triquetra, if you aren't, use it only when it will not cause the "weak" to stumble.

 

The "truth" you have stumbled on has been acknowledged. No one here has said that pagans have not used and perverted many symbols associated with Christianity such as the cross or triquestra. What is deceptive of you is the double standards. What is dishonest of you is that you refuse to acknowledge that the symbol has a legitimate Christian meaning and plainly that is what the NKJV folks intended when they used it.

You are falsely accusing the brethren of being compromised with paganism. We have demonstrated that using your "rule" against you makes you guilty at least twice: once when you used the image of a tiger and another when you use the symbol of the cross.

We are consistent and reject the notion that any of these particular symbols are by necessity anti-christian.

You've demonstrated double mindedness on this issue. Are you now going to try to play the victim after the vicious false charges you have leveled against the Christians responsible for the NKJV?

IOW's, we won't buy "thus saith SFIC" so you are offended?

Agreed. We have repeatedly shown you that you were being inconsistent in your position yet you won't repent.

 

I just saw a tarot reading banner advertised on this page. So now all of you that are on the "tri-whatever is bad" side won't post here anymore?

 

Yikes, I see it too!
The BB is promoting paganism and witchcraft, I am outta here!

 

The trillium was created by God and not meant to be pagan. It is a wonderful picture in nature of the triune nature of God.

Right. And the user defines what he means by it... not a false accuser of the brethren.

Bingo. Just because the pagans believed in paganism does not mean that the triquestra itself is pagan.

That wasn't a tiger SFIC had. It was the image of a tiger.

Man creates drawings and paintings of tigers... just like the one SFIC had.