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Bill Gaither's side of the story.

Discussion in 'Music Ministry' started by Mike McK, May 15, 2006.

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  1. Mike McK

    Mike McK New Member

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    Recently, there's been a lot of uproar, especially among the anti-contemporary music crowd about a brief meeting between Bill Gaither and Mark Lowery and lesbian singer/activist, Marsha Stevens, and their performance of her song, "For Those Tears I Died".

    Unfortunately, I don't believe that Gaither's side of the story is being fairly represented. Since I know that it will come up here (and I believe it already has), I wanted to post it so that you could read it and make up your own minds.

    Here, in Bill Gaither's own words, is his side of the story:



    You can read the rest of it here:

    http://www.singingnews.com/news/sg_wire/index.html

    Now Playing: Johnny Cash - "American Recordings V: A Hundred Highways"
     
    #1 Mike McK, May 15, 2006
  2. tinytim

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    Thank you for posting the other side... I had a feeling the actual truth was being distorted for an anti-Gaither, anti-CCM agenda.

    Thanks, I have been searching for the truth in this.
     
    #2 tinytim, May 16, 2006
  3. FBCPastorsWife

    FBCPastorsWife New Member

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    Oh Wow! Thanks for posting this article. Like tinytim I had searched for the other side of this story.
     
    #3 FBCPastorsWife, May 16, 2006
  4. Scarlett O.

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    I appreciate this, too. Very much. I knew there had to be another side to this story.
     
    #4 Scarlett O., May 16, 2006
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    Same here. I was really surprised when I first started hearing this as it didn't fit with anything I knew of the Gaithers! Thank you Mike!
     
    #5 mcdirector, May 16, 2006
  6. SpiritualMadMan

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    Unfortunately Marsha is not the only young woman from that era to have been co-opted by satan...

    Thanks, Mike for finding and sharing this. [​IMG]

    SMM
     
    #6 SpiritualMadMan, May 16, 2006
  7. PJ

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    I remember discussing this topic a few months ago.

    LINK

    I just couldn't buy into it. Thanks BUNCHES Mike McK for this information! [​IMG]
     
    #7 PJ, May 16, 2006
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    Glad to hear... the rest of the story. Page 3...
     
    #8 Joshua Rhodes, May 16, 2006
  9. Mike McK

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    Glad to help. I don't know Bill Gaither, but his reputation is very well established and, when I heard the story, it was kind of obvious that there was something missing.

    I'm was happy to hear his statement about it.

    Now Playing: Dale Watson - "Live in London...England!"
     
    #9 Mike McK, May 16, 2006
  10. Bro Tony

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    Where are all those false accusers from the original link that PJ posted? Seems to me if they were genuinely concerned with the truth instead of gossip they would post their apologies just as publicly as they did their accusations. The hypocrisy of some on this board never ceases to amaze me. Wonder if the Bible has changed its view on gossip and slander?

    Bro Tony
     
    #10 Bro Tony, May 18, 2006
  11. RockRambler

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    Hmmmm...some posters are being very quiet now..considering how up front they were to condemn before.

    Guess its hard when the facts get in the way of a good rant!!!
     
    #11 RockRambler, May 18, 2006
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    Regardless of whether the statement of Bill condoning Marcia's lesbianism is true or not, I myself do not care for the song.

    My Lord did not die for tears, He died for the sins of the world.
     
    #12 standingfirminChrist, May 18, 2006
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    #13 thjplgvp, May 18, 2006
  14. standingfirminChrist

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    not a perfectionist, th, but do believe when the Lord reveals a truth to us, we should try to conform to that truth and share that truth with others.
     
    #14 standingfirminChrist, May 18, 2006
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    Well said.
     
    #15 rbell, May 19, 2006
  16. Bro Tony

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    Incredible, even when shown that he is wrong and his former statements against other Christians are incorrect and close to slanderous. He still cant admit it and apologize. Instead he moves into another area of critisism. Try this SFIC---"I was wrong", "I am sorry I spoke against other Christians with limited information", "I repent of any harm my tongue did to others". There now that was not so hard. Kind of freeing isn't it?

    Bro Tony
     
    #16 Bro Tony, May 19, 2006
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    I remember folks supporting Cloud in his slander of the Gaithers. I also remember folks scoffing at the possibility that Gaither would NOT endorse homosexuality.

    Unfortunately, I also do not expect many (if any) of these folks who participated in the former discussion to recant, apologize, etc.

    One day, Mr. Cloud's gonna get in serious trouble when he propogates rumors as he does.

    In the original thread, I remember that some folks had actually contacted (emailed, I think?) Mr. Gaither and asked about the issue. Kudos to them for handling this wisely! Who knows...it might have been their email that alerted Gaither to the misinformation campaign that David Cloud was conducting.
     
    #17 rbell, May 19, 2006
  18. Linda64

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    Incredible, even when shown that he is wrong and his former statements against other Christians are incorrect and close to slanderous. He still cant admit it and apologize. Instead he moves into another area of critisism. Try this SFIC---"I was wrong", "I am sorry I spoke against other Christians with limited information", "I repent of any harm my tongue did to others". There now that was not so hard. Kind of freeing isn't it?

    Bro Tony     </font>[/QUOTE]Read what you quoted real slow Bro Tony:

    SFIC said he DID NOT CARE FOR THE SONG

    You sound like a Roman Catholic priest, Bro Tony

     
    #18 Linda64, May 19, 2006
  19. Mike McK

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    It's been my experience that people who follow David Cloud are some of the nastiest, meanest and most irresponsible people around.

    If you don't believe that, go to onlinebaptist.com sometime.

    His followers are fanatical and won't even consider the possibility that someone else's opinion may be valid.

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    #19 Mike McK, May 19, 2006
  20. Bro Tony

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    Linda,
    Your response ignores my point, but I have become use to that from you. The point is in the original thread on this subject SFIC and others made strong unsubstantiated statements against Gaither being with this lesbian and supposedly supporting her. That was incorrect and an unfounded attack on him. That needs to be confessed and acknowledged. Not that I think it will.

    Secondly, I am not a Catholic Priest. What is that supposed to mean except it is a way of attacking me without sounding too bad. I have been in the Baptist Church since birth. I received the Lord as my Savior at 16 and I have pastored in the Baptist Church for 25 years. Do you feel it is a catholic thing to ask people to acknowledge their false assertions and correct their errors. I really don't expect a reasonable answer, so just think about it.

    It has become clear that you and your husband cannot deal with a debate format. You believe that someone calling to question the contradictions of your stand and statements is attacking you and somehow Catholic. That being the case and as I see no purpose in dealing with you two, I will do my best to avoid addressing you in the future. I do not want to do anything to bring harm to another.

    Bro Tony
     
    #20 Bro Tony, May 19, 2006
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