Just Something I Wrote

Can you be certain that it was the Lord that helped you to write it? After all, satan knows music too. He was created a chief musician if you will.

He very well has led many to play the music that many try to say God was behind.

 

I am telling you satan knows music. Satan uses music to appease the flesh and fleshly lusts. Satan will use music to draw people away from all that is God.

As I said, can you be sure it was God who helped you in the music? How can you be sure it is if it is the same music that is in the world?

 

Just because one writes music while they pray does not necessarily mean they get the music from God. If their heart likes the worldly music, they will play the worldly music.

 

Matthew 4:9 9 And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.

 

Hey whatever! I almost used that avatar on here. I'm assuming you got it from me. :thumbsup: Very nice!

 

dunno. just thought I would post it.

Actually, since satan knew music from the beginning, I figgered maybe, just maybe some might see the connection that satan does try to deceive any way he can... he can even offer the very music that he knows appeals to and feeds the flesh.

 

It is the same old song and dance SFIC. Beat the person down with shame, confront them with scripture taken out of context and if they don't agree with your power posturing attack their character because above all you have to be right. After all your own spirtuallity is dependent on your being seemingly more spiritual than others. You have a spiritual bully temperament which seems to say, if I say it is so it has to be and I will beat you up with scripture if you don't agree. You are wrong. Where is your tolerance for anothers liberty in Christ?

Gekko their is no shame in having fun SFIC is standing firm in his spiritual bullying tactics.

 

Sadly true thj.

 

"the World" used to like the style that they hymns were written in. there is a great analogy to this debate in the old Looney Tunes, with an owl who like jazz, and his father was against it and instead taught him the waltz tune "Drink to me only with thine eyes", which sounded just like one of the old hymns, even down to the King James style pronoun! Then, there's the national anthems, which mention God, but are nevertheless songs of praise to a secular nation. Remove the words from them and the hymns, and there is no difference. It is the same basic sound.

Then you have classical, which is still liked by many non-Christians.

The whole problem here is that those songs are not considered "the world" because the culture that produced them was not considered apart of the world, but rather a "Godly Christian culture" (and my many, virtually a new covenant nation like Israel of old) because of its outward morality. But that was a total fallacy that covered up much sin that was prevelant in society then, and denies the Gospel teaching that we all are equally sinful. Sin was instead basically seen as being some outside "corrupting influence" from Africa or modern de-Christianized Europe or something like that. Our old society, in which everyone was not even saved, depsite their outward morality, was still part of "the 'world system'--the 'kosmos'". It was not the Kingdom of Heaven.

Many of you will acknowledge this, but then, to protect the doctrine of which music is good, we swing around to claims about "the flesh" and rhythms, and "natural effects" are often thrown in there, plus past associations. But all of that does not prove the delineation you all are insisting on, as no one has yet shown that a certain style is ALWAYS feeding the flesh, in ANY context, while others always feed the spirit.

SFIC's argument about "Satan can inspire music" can be true for classical as well. That's why the spirit behind the music cannot be narrowed down to some beat accent, as people are trying to do.

 

No spiritual bullying about it. What I have shared from the Word of God and what His Holy Spirit has revealed to me concerning music is quite mild when compared to the havoc Christ caused when confronting that which was contrary to the Word.

Why, I do remember Him even calling the religious crowd 'hypocrites.'

 

"Why, I do remember Him even calling the religious crowd 'hypocrites.'"

Ditto:thumbs:

 

Gekko -

I struggle with this issue as well.

I am a musician. One of the handful of instruments I play is the guitar. I have been around people who made me feel like I want to hide my guitar in the closet, (as if it's something to be ashamed of). They make fun of Praise and Worship music. I think it's sad. I know the line has to be drawn somewhere, but it shouldn't be determined by someone's personal taste. I like many styles of music, (even some secular), I just try to make sure it inspires the right parts of me. There is nothing fleshy about joy, unless you have a skewed definition of the word joy. I say if you can do something and (honestly from the heart) praise God at the same time it's probably fine.

I think it is important to remember that Jesus called the religious people hypocrites because of the standards they imposed on others while they were full of pride and hatred towards those that didn't look and act like them.