Anti-Christ In Southern Baptist Acedemia

The thread is off track and will be closed unless it returns to the OP.

 

rsr,

I wonder if the OP should have been posted in the very beginning?

It seems to be a very inflamatory topic that could only break out into a full fledged smut and smear campaign against the SBC institutions and personel!!

It seems the lines b/t good men's disagreements and character assasination are very fine here.

The moderator or administrator must make those calls. Do what you think is best for all and I will submit to your authority w/o malice.

Just one SBC minister's perception!!

sdg!

rd

 

To all who read this thread:

It must be remembered that all who avow "orthodoxy" are ONLY those who agree with me at every point of theology! (Sarcasm if you cannot tell!). HA!

It must also be remembered that all who avow "hetero-doxy" are ALL THE REST OF YOU WHO DO NOT AGREE WITH ME on every point of theology! (Sarcasm if you cannot tell!). HA!!!

Food for thought!

sdg!

rd

 

rsr,

On second thought, I think you "should shut her down!"

 

rsr,

Really, should this have been posted in the "git go?"

Topic: Anti-Christ In Southern Baptist Acedemia
Mark Osgatharp
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posted January 13, 2006 12:18 AM
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Looking back on the putrid ulcers inflicted on the Southern Baptist Convention by the modernist infection, one is made to wonder just how deeply it's anti-Christian poison was injected into the Southern Baptist bloodstream.

This is not an easy matter to judge. The modernists had burrowed their way into prominent positions which may have made their numbers and influence appear greater than reality, and it may well be so that a good majority of Southern Baptists were ever sincere beleivers in the faith of Christ. But again, the very presence of the modernists in those positions must be some indication of their influence, if not their multitudes. Only that great and dreadful day of judgement will tell the whole story.

But while there may be some question as to the magnitude of modernist influence among the rank and file Southern Baptists, the magnitude of the heresy they brought into Southern Baptist acedemia and intended to inflict on the Southern Baptist masses cannot be exaggerated.

For example, we find in the summer of 1984 issue of the Review and Expositor (the theological journal of the Southern Baptist Seminary of Lousiville which had come to be monopolized by the Southern Baptist infidels before the now historic purge of the late 1980s) an article titled The King as "Messiah" in the Psalms.

The author of the article is John I. Durham who was at that time professor of Hebrew and Old Testament in Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary in Wake Forest, North Carolina. He maintains in said article that, while the Jews had, by the time of Jesus, come to desire and anticipate a righteous king, that such a messiah was never actually prophesied by the seers of old. With typical modernist superiority complex he wrote,


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Few biblical concepts have fallen prey to this tendency [imputing meanings to the Old Testament texts which were foreign to the minds of the authors] any more frequently than has the Old Testament concept of messiah, particularly in its occurrences in the Psalms. Though there are some understandable reasons for the misinterpretation of messiah in the Psalms, they all answer to names like ignorance, prejudice, eisegesis, undisciplined piety, and over-used imagination, and so are wrong and unjustifiable reasons. To deal with the most frequent misunderstanding first, the one connected with the "width" of the concept of messiah in the Psalms, we must note that messiah in the Psalms refers always and only to the ruling king, the "Davidic" king who was Yahweh's appointed and so annointed mashiah representative.
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Any one slightly familiar with the Christology of the New Testament will quickly recognize that Mr. Durham has charged Peter, Paul, John and all the apostles, yeah, Jesus Himself with,


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...ignorance, prejudice, eisegesis, undisciplined piety, and over-used imagination...
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Indeed, he puts forth, in rare acedemian elitist form, that,


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The use by the New Testament writers of the Old Testament language of messianism to describe Jesus had so persuasive an impact upon their Christian descendency that it has become virtually impossible for any Christian who is not a trained and disciplined specialist to read the references to messiah in any other way.
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Again he informs us poor souls, who are so untrained and undisciplined as to believe that Jesus and His apostles actually quoted Scripture in context, that,


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The Old Testament references to messiah, including those in the Psalms, are references that have a significance of their own, one entirely dependent [this apparently should be "independent"] of the New Testament confession of Jesus as Christ, and one that is never a prediction of Jesus of Nazareth. The Psalm texts, indeed, do not involve prediction of any kind.
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And in a parting rebuke he charges those who have failed to lay hold on his monumental dismissal of New Testament Christology with having hunkered down,


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inside the barriers our ignorance and our prejudices have set up around us.
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Thus we see that the influence in Southern Baptist acedemia, before the now historic purge, was by no means conservative, nor moderate, nor even tilted toward the left. Rather, it was an outright denial that Jesus is the promised Messiah/Christ of Moses and the Hebrew propets. Of such the apostle John said,


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Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is anti-christ, that denieth the Father and the Son.
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Mark Osgatharp

 

MO,

See my other post on the other thread. That quote is "old hat" and the Convention literature would have nothing to do with a statement like that.

Have you read in Exodus; "There arose a king who knew not Joseph?" That is where we are now. The article you brandish is not the same convention that is was when that article was published.

Would you please give it a rest?

sdg!

rd

 

Erasmus,

I do not mean for this to turn into a "mutual admiration society;" nonetheless, I appreciate the compliment.

sdg!

rd

 

I admit these discussions are neither fish nor fowl; after all, something that happened 20 years ago may be history to one person while it is contemporary to others.

Once upon a time we had a Baptist Denominations forum where such topics were fair game. I have tended to allow denominational discussions here because, frankly, they get lost in other forums.

Mark has framed his question as a historical one and, as such, can be dealt with here. However, it can easily be shifted to the Theology forum if it wanders too far astray.