Discretion in sentencing sex offenders

Wait a minute. A 16 year old boy has consensual sex with a 15 year old girl. For all we know she could be days away from turning 16 herself. And you say this boy should rot in jail for the rest of his life???

What about the girl? Why shouldn't she also "rot in jail"???

What if this were YOUR son? Would you still want him to rot in jail? I think not. </font>[/QUOTE]If the law says this is statutory rape, then he should rot.

Joseph Botwinick

 

Mandatory sentencing is the result of rapists and murderers being released back into society and raping children and then murdering them...at least one of these children were buried alive. I say if our judges are not going to show judicial common sense, then they should lose their discretion. I knew the soft on crime libs would react this way which is why I moderated to life in prison. The soft on crime libs don't care about the countless victims of rape and murder. They are worried about the precious civil rights and "persecution" of the rapist and the murderer. We don't have time to wait for new judges. We need to reign them in and hold them responsible for the repeat offenders they loose on society to brutalize and murder our children.

Joseph Botwinick

 

Unbelievable Joseph. Why aren't you calling for the girls life imprisonment? </font>[/QUOTE]Because the girl is legally below the age of consent. She did not commit rape. She is the one who was raped. That is just typical of the soft on crime attitude to blame the victim while standing up for the rights of the criminal.

Joseph Botwinick

 

Some states yes. Some states no. Different states have different ages of what is considered to be minor.

Joseph Botwinick

 

I don't know where you grew up, but I wasn't having sex at 8. You talk as if this is normal. What kind of sick, twisted world did you grow up in?

If an 8 year old rapes a girl, and it can be proven to be non-consentual, off to prison for life with him.

Joseph Botwinick

 

What if the law says you can no longer attend church and all Bibles must be turned in, under penalty of death, Joseph? </font>[/QUOTE]Are you attempting to draw a moral equivalency between going to Church and rape? That is almost as idiotic as the liberal anti-war folks drawing a moral equivalency between the war in Iraq and the terrorist attacks in London.

Joseph Botwinick

 

I don't know where you grew up, but I wasn't having sex at 8. You talk as if this is normal. What kind of sick, twisted world did you grow up in?

If an 8 year old rapes a girl, and it can be proven to be non-consentual, off to prison for life with him.

Joseph Botwinick </font>[/QUOTE]But many of us were at 15 or 16 years Joseph. Are we sick?...and twisted? Or maybe just caught up in the normal hormonal urges. Not everyone, including Christians, are able to abstain from all sin all the time. (that's an understatement) </font>[/QUOTE]Yes. Sick and twisted in sin. The Christ who is within me is greater than the hormones which tempt me to sin. Everyone is able to abstain. God does not tempt us beyond what we can handle. But, he also provides forgiveness. But, that also doesn't mean he takes away the consequences of the sin in this life. You will pay a price and justice will be served.

Joseph Botwinick

 

If they break the law and get caught, yes this would be true. My guess is that this would be an incentive to actually obey the law. If you don't like the ages of statutory rape in your state, then do what you can to change the laws. I don't like the discretion that judges are given to release rapists and murderers back into society so they can brutalize and murder our children some more. Therefore, I am going to do what I can to take that discretion away from them, to protect our children. I don't care that much about the rights of the rapist. I care more about the safety of our children.

Joseph Botwinick

 

Well,

Aparently the courts said so. Be offended if you want, but if you break the law, then you should pay the consequences no matter how old you are. I stand by what I said.

Joseph Botwinick

 

1. No
2. No
3. No
4. Yes
5. Are you trying to create a moral equivalency between cheating on a test and rape? You know better than that.


There should be an age span/ limit. I'd think a years difference or mental capacity problem but not a girlfriend, boyfriend so close in age. This boys life is ruined. He's a registered sex offender now! [/QUOTE]

Yes. And he is the one who has ruined his own life. As I said, if you don't like the age limits for statutory rape in your state, then work to change the law. I don't like the discretion our judges have to release repeat offenders back on the streets to brutalize and murder our children. Therefore, I am going to work to change the law and take away that discretion.

James 2:10 For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all. [/QUOTE]

So, you are making the moral equivalency argument. Tell me, do you also agree when that argument is used to compare the war in Iraq with the terrorists acts in London? Sorry. But, someone who cheats on a test in high school is not the same as someone who commits rape, and you know it.

A man applied to work at the company where Jim works and his record showed basically the same thing. No job. [/QUOTE]

You reap what you sow.

Joseph Botwinick

 

Apparently, the law disagrees with you. Again, if you don't like the law, then work to change it just as I am doing with the idiotic law that allows judges to release repeat offenders back on the streets to brutalize and murder our children.

Joseph Botwinick