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Iranophobia

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  1. Brother James

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    Iranophobia
    by Paul Craig Roberts


    If you were President George W. Bush with all available US troops tied down by the Iraqi resistance, and you were unable to control Iraq or political developments in the country, would you also start a war with Iran?

    Yes, you would.

    Bush’s determination to spread Middle East conflict by striking at Iran does not make sense.

    First of all, Bush lacks the troops to do the job. If the US military cannot successfully occupy Iraq, there is no way that the US can occupy Iran, a country approximately three times the size in area and population.

    Second, Iran can respond to a conventional air attack with missiles targeted on American ships and bases, and on oil facilities located throughout the Middle East.

    Third, Iran has human assets, including the Shia majority population in Iraq, that it can activate to cause chaos throughout the Middle East.

    Fourth, polls of US troops in Iraq indicate that a vast majority do not believe in their mission and wish to be withdrawn. Unlike the yellow ribbon folks at home, the troops are unlikely to be enthusiastic about being trapped in an Iranian quagmire in addition to the Iraqi quagmire.

    Fifth, Bush’s polls are down to 34 percent, with a majority of Americans believing that Bush’s invasion of Iraq was a mistake.

    If you were being whipped in one fight, would you start a second fight with a bigger and stronger person?

    That’s what Bush is doing.

    Opinion polls indicate that the Bush regime has succeeded in its plan to make Americans fear Iran as the greatest threat America faces.

    The Bush regime has created a major dispute with Iran over that country’s nuclear energy program and then blocked every effort to bring the dispute to a peaceful end.

    In order to gain a pretext for attacking Iran, the Bush regime is using bribery and coercion in its effort to have Iran referred to the UN Security Council for sanctions.

    In recent statements President Bush and Pentagon chief Donald Rumsfeld blamed Iran for the Iraqi resistance, claiming that the roadside bombs used by the resistance are being supplied by Iran.

    It is obvious that Bush intends to attack Iran and that he will use every means to bring war about.

    Yet, Bush has no conventional means of waging war with Iran. His bloodthirsty neoconservatives have prepared plans for nuking Iran. However, an unprovoked nuclear attack on Iran would leave the US, already regarded as a pariah nation, totally isolated.

    Readers, whose thinking runs ahead of that of most of us, tell me that another 9/11 event will prepare the ground for a nuclear attack on Iran. Some readers say that Bush, or Israel as in Israel’s highly provocative attack on the Jericho jail and kidnapping of prisoners with American complicity, will provoke a second attack on the US. Others say that Bush or the neoconservatives working with some "black opts" group will orchestrate the attack.

    One of the more extraordinary suggestions is that a low yield, perhaps tactical, nuclear weapon will be exploded some distance out from a US port. Death and destruction will be minimized, but fear and hysteria will be maximized. Americans will be told that the ship bearing the weapon was discovered and intercepted just in time, thanks to Bush’s illegal spying program, and that Iran is to blame. A more powerful wave of fear and outrage will again bind the American people to Bush, and the US media will not report the rest of the world’s doubts of the explanation.

    Reads like a Michael Crichton plot, doesn’t it?

    Fantasy? Let’s hope so.

    March 16, 2006

    Dr. Roberts [send him mail] is Chairman of the Institute for Political Economy and Research Fellow at the Independent Institute. He is a former associate editor of the Wall Street Journal, former contributing editor for National Review, and a former assistant secretary of the U.S. Treasury. He is the co-author of The Tyranny of Good Intentions.

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  2. standingfirminChrist

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    Isn't it time, instead of all these threads bashing President Bush, that we do what the Bible says and pray for him?

    James 3:8-10 But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison. Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God. Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.
     
  3. Brother James

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    I do pray for him. Everyday. I pray God to save the man and to restrain his anti-Biblical ways.
     
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    Pro 16:12 [It is] an abomination to kings to commit wickedness: for the throne is established by righteousness.
     
  5. standingfirminChrist

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    Let's look at the Wycliffe version of that verse.

    Proverbs 16:12 Thei that don wickidli ben abhomynable to the king; for the trone of the rewme is maad stidfast bi riytfulnesse.

    It is not saying the king is doing abomination, it is abomination that the people do in the kings eyes and ears.
     
  6. Brother James

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    I'll be sure and cut that verse out my KJV brother! I wonder how John the Baptist would have taken you advice when rebuking Herod. :D
     
  7. Brother James

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    Let's check out the NASB! Horrors, it agrees with the KJV! :eek:

    Pro 16:12 It is an abomination for kings to commit wicked acts, For a throne is established on righteousness.
     
  8. standingfirminChrist

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    I am not saying that the king does not do abominable things. I am saying you were not quoting that scripture in it's context.

    That verse was not speaking of royal wrong at all.
     
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    Proverbs 16:12 Evil-doing is disgusting to kings: for the seat of the ruler is based on righteousness.
    The Bible In Basic English

    DRA Proverbs 16:12 They that act wickedly are abominable to the king: for the throne is established by justice.
    The Douay Rheims American Bible

    NAB Proverbs 16:12 Kings have a horror of wrongdoing, for by righteousness the throne endures.
    The New American Bible

    NIV Proverbs 16:12 Kings detest wrongdoing, for a throne is established through righteousness.
    New International Version
     
  10. Brother James

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    I know what you're saying brother. No offense meant. Forgive me if I stay with the A.V. It's always did me right for the last 22 years.
    God bless [​IMG]
     
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    And I use the AV also. I am a staunch AV defender. But the AV uses the word to and not for in that verse.

    To implies a different meaning than the word for.
     
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    Which on is right brother? The KJV or the Catholic bibles you quoted from? Afterall, the NASB agreed with the KJV and it's from a different text.
     
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    The NASB did not agree with the KJV. It uses the Word for instead of to.
     
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    New American Standard Bible:
    Pro 16:12 It is an abomination for kings to commit wicked acts, For a throne is established on righteousness.

    It is an abomination for rulers to commit wicked acts.
     
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    Pro 16:12 [It is] an abomination to kings to commit wickedness: for the throne is established by righteousness.

    It is an abomination for a king to do wickedly fro his throne is established by righteousness.
    Whether it's to or for it means the same thing.
     
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    King James Authorized Version:
    Proverbs 16:12 It is an abomination to kings to commit wickedness: for the throne is established by righteousness.

    It is an abomination to kings to commit wickedness:

    to is not the same as for
     
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    We should be doing that for all our governmental leaders, regardless of who they are, regardless of whether we like them or not, voted for them or not, respect them or not, or care about politics or not.

    Many people do not differentiate between praying for our leadres, and praying that our leaders do what we want them to. That says more about our infantile attitude of our leaders than it does about our leaders.
     
  18. Brother James

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    What does the last part of the verse say brother? You must have that to determine the context or else we're no better than Cambellites.
     
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    Johnv,

    Agreed. We should hold all up in prayer.
     
  20. Brother James

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    It's a pity that his attitude didn't prevail when Ahab and Jezebel Clinton were in power.
     
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