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Should Methamphetamine be Legalized?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by KenH, Mar 27, 2006.

  1. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    Then you should agree with me that the government shouldn't be engaging in drug prohibition. Otherwise, you are only giving lip service to the concept of liberty from government intrusion as so many so-called conservatives and liberals do today.
     
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    Ken,

    2) During alcohol prohibition, alcohol was brewed next door in bathtubs. Do you see that still going on in your neighbor's bathtub?

    Bathtubs? Not that I know of, but people do brew alcohol at home. And alcohol is available at the corner market now. Is that what you want--meth available at the local market??? Are you equating alcohol and this garbage? Others have repeatedly pointed out the pharmacological facts about this drug and you seem to have repeatedly/constantly ignored those posts/points.
     
  3. fromtheright

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    Ken,

    Then you should agree with me that the government shouldn't be engaging in drug prohibition.

    Your response again muddies up what you're responding to: is it drug prohibition in general or federal government? Again, the article to which you have pointed out that you want us to respond to doesn't distinguish. Debating this with you is like trying to step on a catfish.
     
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    [​IMG] Yeah, I guess it's easy for someone who doesn't have any children to hold to a position that completely abandons these helpless victims. Say what you want, that doesn't make it true. Yes Ken, in fact it's not just me! All of us parents who care about our children are really just a big bunch of nazi's who want to take away your right to free speech.
     
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    FTR... I like you!
     
  6. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin

    "A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have." - Gerald Ford
     
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    KenH Well-Known Member

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    I am against drug prohibition in general. Since I don't know what powers the fifty state constitutions giver to their respective state governments, when discussing the constitutionality of prohibition, I am referring only the the federal constitution.
     
  8. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    1. Having human children wouldn't change my position one iota.

    2. I never advocated abandoning anyone.
     
  9. macitruth

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    So which liberty is it I'm in favor of giving up....OH YES the liberty to use drugs, neglect and endanger my kids, and possibly my neighbors, firends and coworkers as well....

    "A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have." - Gerald Ford
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    No one on here has in the least bit implied that our government should give us everything we want.
     
  10. KenH

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    No is forcing you to use drugs, macitruth, not even an aspirin. You should stop wanting to use the government to impose your will on others.
     
  11. fromtheright

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    KenH,

    Here we go again with Ken: argument by epigram. When the points are difficult, ignore them, change the subject, confuse the subject, or trot out a quote.

    When some point out that government's duty is to protect us Ken asks where it is in the Constitution?

    When some point out the deadly effects of this drug, Ken ignores them.

    When some try to argue government's role, Ken can't decide whether he wants to argue government's role or the federal government's role.

    When some argue that government's duty is to protect us (that's funny, I thought that was the duty of the police), Ken throws out a Franklin quote.

    I'm through trying to catch this catfish.

    Good night'chall.
     
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    KenH Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, ftr, you had best quit while you are behind. :D
     
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    While I'm behind what? I can't figure out where you are to know if I'm ahead or behind.
     
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    I prefer seals anyway.

    [​IMG]

    :D
     
  15. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    You have never proven the libertarian position to be incorrect - either on practical grounds or on ideological grounds concerning the proper role of government in a free society that is safeguarded from Big Mother/Big Daddy Government.
     
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    Several bromides about legalizing meth that need debunking:

    Legalization of tobacco and alcohol hasn't stopped illegal production of either.
    See above.
    That fallacy could be used to talk about rape prvention, smoking prevention, national defense, etc.
    This fallacy assumes the only reason meth addicts don't seek help is because they are fearful of the legal consequences. Is there a mad rush of tobacco addicts, sex addicts, and alcoholics rushing for treatment? Of course not.
    ..because the governement and/or private sector regulation always ensures safe and consistent production.
    Again, more clap-trap about governmental or private bureacracy. This argument falls regarding waste disposal regarding trash, nuclear materials, etc.

    This has to be one of the most logically impotent arguments I've heard in a long time. I'm for deregulation of an awful lot, but if you're going to make an argument for legalization of meth, make a better one than this. :rolleyes:
     
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    Well, praise God! I can finally issue the 10-page warning! This thread will be closed no sooner than 05:00 a.m. E.T. by one of the moderators.

    LE :D
     
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    From Street Drugs dot org:

     
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    ..because the governement and/or private sector regulation always ensures safe and consistent production. </font>[/QUOTE]Good answer. When Oklahoma adopted the death penalty the FDA stopped it for two years for testing to ensure that the lethal injection chemicals were both "safe" and "effective". No joke!
     
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