"God Wills It"

Brother Glen,

I do not believe those declaring a jihad against us are doing so because of the crusades because if this was the case, why did they wait hundreds upon hundreds of years to do so? I think the reason is primarily three fold. First, their version of God's word, the Koran encourages jihad and murdering of infidel Christians and Jews alike so that they may inherit virgins in the afterlife for being a "martyr" (or when properly stated a "terrorist") Second, we are the most free and affluent country in the world and the world leader of Democracy, their culture puts rules and bondage on their citizens, especially the women who must mask themselves and are not permitted to drive and encourages theocracy, rather than Democracy, thus they view us as a threat. Third, while it is certainly true many in the United States are "Christian" by name only, it is an undeniable fact our nation was founded on Judea-Christian principles by Godly men and our country probably has more real Christians than any other in the world. Remember Jesus declared, "If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you" (John 15:9) and ".Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you" ( 1 John 3:13) They are children of the devil and just like righteous Abel was murdered by wicked Cain from the days of Genesis, so likewise now the children of the devil seek to kill the children of the Light, but they can only go so far as God wills. Make no mistake about it, we are not to blame. They are children of the bond woman whos ancestor is Ishmael, nevertheless what saith the scripture is there end, "Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman" (Galatians 4:30).

Brother Joe

 

Let me say this...I partly agree with BrotherJoseph. I don't believe those of other beliefs want to destroy us just because of the Crusades. However, I do believe their radicalism towards destroying us stems from the hypocritical arrogance often found in Christianity and Christian nations (if there is such a thing).

While I agree with your first point, it would be accurate to say that in light of the Crusades Brother Glen mentioned, that Christians were terrorists long before the modern terrorism of Islam then. Muslims are killing in the name of "God", Christians killed in the name of God. Your second point is true in a lot of Muslim countries but not all (i.e. ) and the culture here (and Christian culture) puts rules and bondage on it's citizens. On your third point, can't really agree at all with that....Christopher Columbus, Thomas Jefferson, slavery, Jim Crow.

Great discussion though Brother Glen.

 

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Brother Robust, I think the distinction needs to be made between those called "Christians" in name and those who really are Christians. Jesus told us, "A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another." I do not believe the Catholics who killed people in the crusades pass the test of being true Christians in either doctrine or practice. The other difference is the Muslim's Koran has verses advocating jihad, but our Bible has no such verses to kill infidels. Thus, one could make an argument that those Muslims carrying out the jihad our actually following the practices of Mohammed and Islam's teachings in their holy book and are indeed therefore not disqualified to be classified as "Muslims", albeit as the phrase that is popularized today in the media of "radical Islamic terrorism" may be more appropriate.

The principles laid out in the constitution and by our founding fathers in the government, though far from perfect, were founded on Judea Christian values. For example, the separation of powers between the executive, legislative, and judicial was due to the founding fathers belief in the depravity of man, therefore they did not want to put all the power in one branch lest that branch get corrupt. Many of the founding fathers (not Jefferson) were puritans, Calvinists, etc. The original settlers the Pilgrims were Christians seeking refuge from religious persecution, The Declaration of Independence mentions God four times, "the Laws of Nature and Nature's God..., "all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights...", "appearing to the Supreme Judge of the World for the Rectitude of our Intentions", and "with a firm Reliance on the Protection of Divine Providence...". The Mayflower Compact written by the Pilgrims that became the cornerstone of the Constitution states, "Having undertaken for the glory of God and the advancement of the Christian faith...".

The Bible use to be a central school textbook used in our public schools until I believe the 1900s. Matter of fact in1781 Congress approved the purchase of Bibles to be used in schools.
Morever, during the earlier years of our country we had the highest literacy rate in the word because the Puritans wanted their children to be able to read their Bibles. The abolition of slavery was largerly a Christian movement. Most of those fighting the slave trade were Christians, as were the conductors of the Underground Railroad. The activites of the civil rights movement used the churches as the base for their work. People sometime forget that Dr. Marin Luther King Jr. was the Reverend Dr. King, a Baptist minister and headed the Southern Christian Leadership conference. I do not deny the founding fathers did grave evil in engaging in slavery, but this does not mean they were not Christians. There were slave owners in Paul's time, one was the Christian Philemon who Paul wrote to and told him to accept back his slave Onesimus as a "brother beloved". This certainly doesn't mean we can conclude Paul and Philemon the slave owner were not Christian.

I got most of the above information from books written by Dr. D. James Kennedy. I would recommend the books if you have the money and time. They are What if The Bible Had Never Been Written? and What if America Were a Christian Nation Again? Both books are by the late Calvinist preacher D. James Kennedy. I don't agree with him in that I believe he propagates gospel regeneration (it has been a long time sine I read those books), but that isn't the central themes of the books, thus they are worth a read.

 

The difference is the US doesn't steal or take the oil though they spend perhaps billions to fight for the oppressed, freedom, and to defeat terrorism. The only US politician I know of that propagates the idea that we should take the oil from the land from the ISIS fighters for our own use is Donald Trump.