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Actually I did the quoting, and no, I'm not lying my friend.

 

Note post #134 brother on addressing whether one has claimed repentance is not necessary for salvation. I've provided proof there.

Also here it is said by dhk as well:

https://www.baptistboard.com/threads/salvation-minus-repentance-equals-salvation.66981/

Here is Dr. Bob on repentance:

He nails it. https://www.baptistboard.com/threads/repentance-do-we-still-preach-it.26312/

 

Just two questions.

Have we presently received, the adoption or have presently received, Spirit of adoption?

YLT Rom 8:23 And not only so, but also we ourselves, having the first-fruit of the Spirit (of adoption), we also ourselves in ourselves do groan, adoption expecting -- the redemption of our body;

Is it totally in error by context to insert (of adoption) there?

 

Why did Jesus use the analogy of human birth for born from above. What is required for a human, being? To be. Begotten and then birth, to be born.

Jesus, pre being brought forth.
τὸ γὰρ ἐν αὐτῇ γεννηθὲν, ἐκ Πνεύματός

the for in her conceived out of spirit - conceived, being generated, born? Was Jesus conceived and then born, brought forth. Again, why the analogy of the process of birth, if it is not a process? Do we receive spirit of adoption and await in hope, adoption, according to the word of God.

When will we be like him?
who is marked out Son of God in power, according to the Spirit of sanctification, by the rising again from the dead, ) Jesus Christ our Lord;

 

Sorry for the rabbit trail, disregard my posts.

 

Your answers are so fragmented and confused, such a mix of error...it forces me to read real ,godly teachers who know what the scripture really says. They present it in an orderly gifted fashion.

I know They are more knowledgeable than I am , so In the interest of truth it is beneficial to all here for me to post the best teaching possible. The Lord teaches me many things, but I am not so full of myself that I will not learn from these godly men.

You should try that instead of remaining unteachable with a proud arrogant spirit, that you try and project on us.

Your response should have been....thank you for these fine Christ centered links that are loaded with many scripture verses that I have over-looked. I will gladly read and learn of my saviour things I lack.

 

Brother DHK,

This is not really related to the topic, but being a moderator I thought you might know the answer to my questions, is the search forum tool now only enabled to go back to posts up until the time the baptistboard changed? I can't seem to find posts from say even a year ago and when I search my posts on my profile it doesn't seem to go back very far. Any help from you or others on the forum on if and how to search farther back would be appreciated.

 

A short answer on repentance you could not answer so you had to post an entire Catechism?
So pitiful. It demonstrates a lack of debating skills.
Someone else has asked you the same basic question that I have:
Give one verse of scripture where God commands "repent of all your sins."
Demonstrate that repentance means "to repent of all your sins."
But you have not done that. Instead you assume that your erroneous definition is right than falsely accuse those who don't agree with the error as not believing in repentance. Don't you see that fallacy of your own thinking.

 

Google works better. If you can, search using your user name, a key phrase you may have used, and include 'baptistboard' then click enter. It's a bit tedious but you will be able to find what you are looking for in a few attempts.

 

ITL......we would like you to provide is scripture for anything....anything at all. Your complaint is we are not giving you scripture? Are you lazy like your friend and not reading the links...
HINT; the letters and numbers represent scripture verses,

ITL....seriously...I just glanced through the links I offered to to you,
there were 146+ scripture verses on the subject offered to you
post 96 -20vs
post 104>62vs
post 109>12vs
post 110 6vs
post 112 46 vs
....do you want me to drive to Minnesota and hold your hand and read through them together ???
I can explain what they mean???

I thought i demonstrated this to you already....
In 1 thess 1 we read this; How they turned.... to God... from Idols

Idolatry is sin
they turned to God....from Idols{sin}
to serve the living God....

The word repentance is not used in the passage....the action describes exactly all the elements of Godly repentance......a change of mind to toward God, a change of mind towards sin, a change of mind toward godly service...all enabled by God's grace.

 

What those scriptures state plainly is that those who believe upon Christ are children, and thereby HAVE the Spirit.

Then, AFTER receiving the Spirit, those who are LED BY the Spirit are sons.

There is nowhere stated any inevitability that the children will mature into sons

 

Thanks!

 

What proof. Does he say that repentance is not necessary? No.

Don't bear false witness. Read carefully what I said.
https://www.baptistboard.com/threads/salvation-minus-repentance-equals-salvation.66981/

He nails it. https://www.baptistboard.com/threads/repentance-do-we-still-preach-it.26312/[/QUOTE]
You have a hard time with comprehension. No one here has denied repentance, only your understanding of it.

 

Brother Icon,

Do you believe one repents to become born again or repents because he has become born again?

 

All of the tekna are tekna by election and adoption ....everyone of them

 

Hello Brother
I believe God grants repentance and faith at regeneration. When God enables a dead sinner to come to life that sinner is granted these graces as the Spirit quickens him to life, enabling saving faith and saving repentance to be then exercised by the believing sinner, who from that point forth, believes and continues to believe, he repents and continues to repent of sin until glorified!!!

 

What do you mean 'Does 'he' say...?' I quoted YOU, so you are 'he'. It is clear that you stated it is not a part of the Gospel.

Here is only PART of what YOU said:

And more:

Any person can go back and read what you said and see it in context. There is more as well. But we have the playing of games, you want exact wording 'repentance isn't necessary' while any common person can see that is what you said without it being a word for word quote. Just look up at what I quoted.

 

Don't bring election into this. It is not a thread on Calvinism. Election was done in eternity past and thus has no bearing on the present.
Both adoption and regeneration take place simultaneously, at the point of salvation.
Just as salvation has 3 parts to it and will not be completed until glorification takes place so it is with adoption.
We wait for the redemption of our bodies.

Rom 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
We wait for the adoption and the redemption to be completed. Scripture is quite clear on this.

 

Nope, I never said nor did I imply you are unsaved. But what is seen is your contempt for me and my alleged 'Calvinist theology'.

Nothing I said had one thing to do with Calvinism.

If you think that my treatment of Acts 17:11 (below) is butchering Scripture then that is just sad on your account.

Here is what I stated prior to the post being deleted for being reported as calling your salvation into question, which didn't happen at all.

Here is exactly what I said concerning Acts 17:11:

'In Acts 17:11 rest assured these did not look for word for word passages to match the exact thing word for word of what Paul stated. Instead they were able to deduce from Scripture the things he claimed were true. In other words they graduated from being babes needing proof texts to the matured right handling of the Word, 2 Timothy 2:15.'

My argument above stands and is sound reasoning of Scripture. This to rebut your convenient excuse to find a word for word verse that shows repentance is in fact from ones sin which is an absurd and shallow request.