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I was trying to be a good forum member, and not start a thread for something that's been covered already.

 

You have offered your thoughts here RM and they are what they are.....you mention 4 people who you find to your liking.
Speaking for myself......you do not like when you are answered directly so rather then respond in kind you seek to diminish those who respond to you directly as if that makes up for your lack of a biblical response.
You think we are wrong???? Show it biblically if you believe you can. If you agree in part ,then show where you agree and where you do not. That is not too much to ask is it?

 

Rob
Threads get repeated and reworded each day. If something is on your mind .....go for it!

 

The crazy thing is the Arminians on this board (of course not all of them... I won't wrongly generalize) are guilty of the same complaints they are lodging. We're accused of being arrogant in our position while they are being arrogant in their position. I won't call any names but both camps know who I'm referring to. Check the last few theological discussions for yourself. Can both sides show more grace...of course. But there needs to be some plank removal before some sawdust inspection (Matt. 7:3-5).

 

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We all could do better in our interactions but I am in total agreement with the truth you just posted.
No one posts what they believe is error. Why would any reasonable person do so?
I for one do not mind some of the emotion or heat being generated even when I am on the side being attacked because it reveals much about the opposition.
Is it bible based, or personal. Is it sicere, or agenda driven.

 

well, would say to the posting itself, that there are what I would call calvinists like myself, who maintain the 5 points of the doctrines of grace, and yet there are also reformed calvinists, who would add to that the creeds/confessions, and the entire system of proper calvinism!

 

The 5 points are a significant truncation of the Canons of Dort --to say the least. But even the Canons of Dort do not summarize Calvinism. A confession of Faith such as the 1689 or Westminister Confession of Faith try to make a broader sweep of many (not all) doctrines of the Bible. And as I demonstrated in a thread long ago --even Christians who do not call themselves Calvinists, agree with those two Confessions of Faith 75% of the time at minimum.

 

RM is the epitome of representing what anti-cals behave like.

 

strike-throughs mine

On mine as well. It didn't take long to find out he's a factious man, Titus 3:8ff.

 

Wonderful! There should be ample evidence so provide the evidence! Don't skip this part, you've accused now give the evidence for each of us.

Awaiting the evidence. You've stated 'each one here' so it must be available.

When has a Calvinist on here claimed God opened your eyes, or perhaps you've misspoken? That said does not Scripture claim this; Matthew 11:25ff; Ephesians 1:18; Acts 26:18; 2 Cor. 4:6? It most certainly does. Yes, we believe. God opened our eyes (or the eyes of our heart) Acts 16:14. He does this in all of His elect.

Yes and Amen!!!! Is this a problem for you?

I'm certain this Calvinist has done so, having been on both sides. Perhaps you should discontinue concern for Calvinists, considering that they could be wrong, and take some time off yourself and do the same? An honest evaluation may lead you to plains of truth you've formerly ridiculed.

Yes, we are here to teach Biblical truth. Biblical truth is for the sheep, not goats and this Biblical truth is the Gospel.

 

I went on that link that was given explaining different Calvinist and now I'm more confused when I came out, then when I went in... There was another link within this on where someone else had a chart that said... That in Hyper-Calvinism God is the author of sin!... Where is that in the bible?... I didn't know there were so many factions of Calvinist!... Brother Glen

 

Well, evidence for yourself came pretty easily. Found it right here in this very post...

When your born again brother, God has opened your eyes!

So did God open your eyes that Calvinism is the Gospel? Or did you come to this conclusion through personal human study of what has been written to all Christians? If it is the latter, then you could be wrong, seeing how we are just human. If it is the former, then you believe you have been given Divine revelation that Calvinism is the Gospel. But then remember, we have brother Browner in another thread claiming to have been given Divine revelation that practicing righteousness justifies a person unto eternal life. I also have a brother who believes he has been given Divine revelation that Millennial Exclusion is biblical.

 

In other words you have no evidence and merely, yet falsely, accuse. Gather up the evidence and substantiate your accusations.

Right, but your misnomer I quoted was intended to malign, not commend Calvinist brothers.

All truths that believers are led into are from God, 1 Cor. 2:14ff, Ephesians 1:9; 17ff; Acts 26:17ff; Acts 16:14; 2 Corinthians 4:6.

Is your study 'personal human study' or is that implication just for those you hold in contempt, i.e. Calvinist brothers?

It's haughty of you to make pretense that whatever truths the Calvinists hold to fall under your two indictments above. They do not.

Read the above passages for the answer to this. Personally no one taught me 'Calvinism' but having read the Word after hearing of the DoG I am convinced of their truths, by God, by His Word, by His spirit and Soli Deo Gloria. No books were sought, only Scripture. These truths are capable of being readily defended Biblically.

And then we have your beliefs that are amiss in many ways which you affirm as truth.

I believe you've been schooled on here often enough and it is noted by many. To date all you've offered are straw man arguments, ad hominem, and no solid biblical exegesis.

But back to my premise, provide this evidence that you've accused and have failed to supply. It is most unChristian of you to falsely accuse brothers on here, and to go on doing so without having provided a bit of evidence.

 

Lol. You just confirmed that you declare God taught you Calvinism. Which is the point you are contending I falsely accuse you of. Lol

 

I've not read Calvin, have you? I'm alluding to the biblical truths I hold which would fall under the 5 solas. The doctrines of election, foreknowledge, predestination, inability of man are all biblical and can be defended readily without consulting any other theologian.

But who indoctrinated you into your decisional, synergistic Finneyism? It's certainly not Biblical but you do assuredly hold to it. Your system is only a couple hundred years old, or so and you've been taught the system by men.

Last request: go gather the evidence of your false accusations or remain considered a teller of untruths.

 

You would have us believe that you studied the bible and came to the conclusion that there are these "5 solas" found in scripture before you ever heard of calvinism's TULIP?

 

Folks like Steaver and I have been on this board for a long time. We have been in debate after debate with cals over the years. What you think you see in your relatively short time here is far different from what we see having been over this stuff time and time again.

 

Yes. I am asked to give evidence. And in that very request more evidence was provided.