Featured I Don't Think He Did - What Say You?

Thanks for the fix. I finished the post and had to leave immediately. I didn't notice that there was a problem until it was too late to do anything about it.

Anything "interesting" you see in it is not real. I have never agreed with what is now called the "free grace" position. Back in the 1980s when I was coming out of agnosticism, I used a Ryrie Study Bible as my main reading Bible. I read every note in it and was confused for months until I realized that I didn't have to reconcile what Ryrie said with scripture because scripture is the standard, not Ryrie - even if his words are on the same page. I couldn't reconcile his positions on salvation, dispensationalism, or spiritual gifts with what the scripture taught.

Okay, fair enough. One of my pet peeves is speaking dogmatically beyond what the scripture teaches. Lots of bad theology gets created in spiritual communities that way.

The references to Judas, especially in the Gospel of John, indicate that there was something seriously wrong with Judas' faith. He was a thief of the group's money, and Jesus made reference to him several times as one who was something of an outsider. At the same time, I can find any definitive scriptural proof that he faces destruction. Shortly before he killed himself, he exhibited great remorse and perhaps came into repentance is his despair before he ended his life. I don't know.

It is humble and honorable to express an opinion that one does not hold to be the last word on the subject. I would not teach or preach that Judas faces condemnation. However, I would teach and preach the biblical text and avoid adding much speculation in my role as a teacher or preacher, since people tend to give those opinions more weight and God judges teachers and preachers more strictly because of the influence they hold. I decided many years ago to be as faithful as possible to the scriptures and not say more that the scriptures say.

That is the fact that is in dispute. "Son of perdition" is a Hebrew idiom which means "one destined to perish." Judas had already set in motion a series of events that would lead to his suicidal remorse and the death of Jesus. The question is whether the perished referenced here is simply the death of his body (as opposed to the other 11) before the start of the church in Acts 2, or an eternal condition.

You are probably correct in your interpretation, but I am not going to go there unless there is more evidence. I will simply state what scripture states.

 

Grow up and lose your no one believes the bible nonsense, OK?

The verse applies to the saints, not to Judas. So as I stated, your theology ain't.

Simply pasting a proper application and definition does not make the passage apply to those who are lost, so it does not support your fallacious theology. Your theology skips past the necessity of the transformed life inherent in true Gospel conversion, 2 Corinthians 3:18ff, 2 Corinthians 5:17. Judas was a practicing thief and no thief enters the kingdom; 1 Corinthians 6:10. Don't be deceived.

 

I do have a question concerning : Judas was a practicing thief and no thief enters the kingdom; 1 Corinthians 6:10. Don't be deceived.

Verse 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

Did that washing come about because, the life in the blood of Jesus having been given for those sins and Jesus having been raised for their justification?

Was the death and resurrection of Jesus applied to the and such were some of you before and after that death and resurrection?

Will David, the man, who had a man murdered and took his wife. be saved because of the death and resurrection of Jesus or because he straightened himself out with God before he, himself, saw death and corruption?

 

Good verse for a little context...

Yes, they were washed by the blood of the Lamb. Note Titus 3:15. Also Revelation 7:14.

They were such prior to their conversion, and the passage shows this past tense walk. Hence the word 'but' used three times to qualify and solidify their renewal. This is seen in the fact of their washing, of the imputed sanctification, and of their standing in justification. No truly saved person get's to skip out on any of these truths though seemingly many today want to leave off the sanctification part that comes with true conversion.

There is salvation in no other name, Acts 4:12. The fact that he repented shows grace within him.

 

Judas judgment has already been made...by the Lord Jesus Himself:

"While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled." John 17:12.

So why argue about a matter that has already been established?