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Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Salty, Oct 19, 2016.

  1. HankD

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    Look brother Zaac we disagree here and there. However, I do agree with you that our discipleship and witness for our LORD takes precedence over all.

    In my walk with the LORD Zaac, I do see other responsibilities including the protection of innocent life which transcends any political persuasion.

    I also realize that the NT is full of scriptures which teach protection of life by sharing with others the sustenance with which we have been blessed. Some call it social justice and I have no problem with that.

    1 John 3
    16 By this we know love, because He laid down His life for us. And we also ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.
    17 But whoever has this world's goods, and sees his brother in need, and shuts up his heart from him, how does the love of God abide in him?
    18 My little children, let us not love in word or in tongue, but in deed and in truth.
    19 And by this we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before Him.

    HankD
     
  2. Aaron

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    Yes, they are.

    List a an example you think supports your notion and I will show you (and those reading this) your mistake.
     
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    OK. Reconcile Trump's position on immigration with Leviticus 19:33-34 and Matthew 25:35 and Hebrews 13:2.

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    I don't know who you are reading that you are pulling this misuse of scripture from but you need to read someone else and leave that fella alone.
     
  5. HankD

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    As I said in a previous post, I believe we are indeed required of God (at least on an individual basis) to share our abundance with others no matter their race, creed or religion.

    However we are not required as a nation to be stupid and jeopardize our own lives.

    ISIS has already used the "refugee" situation to infiltrate their murderers into these refugees masses going to those nations who innocently and in good faith offered asylum and sustenance. ISIS has promised to do the same to America.

    http://thefederalist.com/2016/08/15/intel-confirms-isis-hid-among-refugee-hordes-flooding-europe/

    I believe this is a warning to America to use wisdom and selectivity maybe to an extreme in allowing these undocumented aliens into our nation.

    This flood of "refugees" and America's assistance for them is not the equivalent of helping the stranger in the passages you quote because of the stealth of these murderers at very least to the vetting of these individuals

    We certainly want to give assistance to the needy but the protection of our nation from an invasion and/or infiltration of sociopath murderers who will kill you and your family without a twinge of conscience even at the peril of their own lives overrides this biblical principal of sharing our abundance.

    There are also the ways of wisdom which could prevail.

    Strange is it not that Saudi Arabia with an EMPTY air conditioned city of 100,000 units will not accept these refugees?

    http://www.breitbart.com/national-s...onditioned-tents-ready-will-take-no-refugees/

    If we refused assistance and the sale of our military equipment to the Saudi kingdom I am sure they would change their mind.

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  6. InTheLight

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    HankD, I was thinking more about Latino immigrants when I posted those scriptures, not ISIS.

    Rev, What's wrong with quoting Leviticus 19 when talking about strangers in your land (i.e. Latino immigrants)?
     
  7. Salty

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    WE are getting of OP -

    SIMPLY STATE A CONSERATIVE ISSUE -

    IF YOU WANT TO GO INTO DETAIL - START A NEW THREAD.
     
  8. InTheLight

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    Peace through strength. We should have a world class leading military so that other countries do not consider expansion through conquest.
     
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    OK ITL. but ISIS is present in Mexico and can come in with/as Latino "undocumented" aliens or even as "agricultural workers".

    http://www.barenakedislam.com/2015/...uarded-border-thanks-to-barack-hussein-obama/

    Disguised as Latinos, ISIS murderers would be hard to distinguish by optics alone.

    Personally I have no problem with Agricultural temporary workers - but they must be treated decently (housing, food, special clothing Must be provided) along with a medical contract while in the USA. AT LEAST Minimum wage for work provided - nothing extra (rent, meals, tools, special clothing, etc...) can be included in the work wage.

    They CANNOT overstay their temporary work Visa. Infractions will be penalized.

    All other temps. - They CANNOT overstay Visa. Infractions will be penalized.

    Citizenry seekers. Do it legally OR NOT AT ALL.

    HankD
     
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    It's a term that changes with the times, so it's a bit relative and subjective.
    My understanding of it is that, so far as social aspects go, they will typically oppose gay marriage, abortion, and want the government to be based on the Bible. Those were the defining social aspects of the conservative atmosphere I grew up in, anyway. And it is the reason that (aside from being prolife) I reject the term to describe myself. (I am economically conservative, but not socially so.)
     
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