When Jesus cleared the Temple

I agree that the selling of Christian books and tapes "in church" is wrong. Also if you are selling them above cost "out side of church" to make a profit it is likewise wrong. But thats my humble opinion.

 

I agree, a lot of churches are more interested in turnover with regards to money than people.
Makes want to vomit.

David

 

Mark 10:21 Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.

Do you take your own advice.

 

People (including pastors, evangelists, etc.) who write books and/or produce music cd's may also "lead a quiet life, mind their own business, and work with their own hands, as Paul has commmanded them."
If writing a book is not working with your own hands then what is?? That should be a no-brainer.
In some cases if the church paid the pastor a half decent salary then perhaps the preacher would be able to spend more time in prayer and the word and less time doing other things to eke out a living for his family.
DHK

 

Who are you to play the part of God. This is the most arrogant presumptuous statement I have heard.
My house is a house of prayer.
We also pray and get instructed at the meeting place of the church but that is another story.
DHK

 

I am not confused jacob, you are. I have repeatedly told you that these verses specifically refer to the Old Testament Jewish Temple located in Jerusalem. I am not a Jew, do not live in Jerusalem, and do not worship at the Jewish Temple. It is not rightly dividing the Word of Truth to apply those verses to New Testament Christianity. You are taking these verses out of context only to justify your own preconceived ideas, or even to make up your own petty doctrines which are outside of the Bible.

The only Temple the New Testament speaks of is the body. I challenge you to find any other.

1 Corinthians 6:19-20 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

Thus your entire hermeneutic is faulty.
My house is a house of prayer. (Don't judge)
My house is not the church.
My house is not the church building.
DHK

 

Good Jacob.
Now maybe we can get on the same page.
Try comprehending these verses:

2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Matthew 22:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.

Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

 

Then you will recognize that the Old Testament Temple has nothing to do with church buildings. To suggest so, is a perversion of the word of God.
DHK

 

I have trouble with people who won't accept this part of the scripture for us, because it was for thr Jews. Or that part because Jesus was talking to the Pharisees or Sadducees and not to us.

I think we are supposed to use ALL the words of Jesus as instruction for US!!

If all the words of Jesus were not to be used for us, then they should be removed from the bible!! Why not just start with the book of Acts,----oh wait! NO, that has those nasty old gifts that we don't use anymore!!

Lets start with 1 Corinthians!! But theres stuff in there that should be thrown out too!!

Oh I know, lets just buy a book from a great theologen that just says what we want to hear.

All the bible is to be used for instruction and reproof. But some use it to their peril. Many big name preachers do err not knowing the scriptures:Matthew 22:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.

John-5-39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

the Bible is called the Living word of God for a reason!!

Working for Jesus,

Tam

 

Throughout the New Testament, the Church is compared to a Temple. Let us remember that most of the Epistles are primarily books addressed to Churches NOT Individuals. To take them out of their Church context is to misuderstand them.

TO THE CORINTHIAN CHURCH PAUL WROTE,

1 Corinthians 3:16
Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?

1 Corinthians 3:17
If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.

TO THE EPHESIAN CHURCH PAUL WROTE
Ephesians 2:20-22 .

"20 having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone, 21 in whom the whole building, being fitted together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord, 22in whom you also are being built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit. "

So yes the Church is the successor to both the OT Tabernacle and Temple. The Holy Spirit indwells the members and is continually building up this temple by adding new members.

There is no justification to say the Church Building is the successor to the OT Tabernacle and Temple BUT where Christ Church meets BE it a little Church house, Gymnasium. Gothic cathedral, House Church..there is where God meets His people and there is His Sanctuary.

I could see the Temple cleansing of Jesus applied in a secondary sense in they way some Ministries require money to attend their crusades (Joel Osteen is an example of this) and I am sure there are other examples of how Christ Temple has allowed money to corrupt her ministry today.