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General Mark Clark: Still not welcome in Texas

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  1. carpro

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    https://www.warhistoryonline.com/featured/us-general-mark-wclark.html


    Still Not Welcome in Texas to This Day, The Controversial Career of US General Mark W. Clark




    Granted, many in modern Texas may have never heard of General Mark W. Clark, also known as General Marcus Aurelius Clarkus by his subordinates. But for a period after World War 2, the State of Texas wanted nothing to do with the youngest man to be promoted to Lieutenant General in World War 2.

    Many would deride him as inexperienced and out of his league, but that wouldn’t stop the man from rising through the ranks to eventually become a full General by the end of World War 2 and the Far East Commander in the ensuing Korean War. Whether he was tactically sound or just politically proficient has become fodder for historians to debate.

    However, what is beyond dispute is that if the man were to step foot in the state of Texas in the years after World War 2, he better be ready for a Texas-sized fight.


    The reason:

    ... in one particular battle, Clark’s decisions would lead to the virtual annihilation of the 36th Infantry Division also known as the “Texas” Division since it was comprised primarily of men from the Texas National Guard. General Clark sent the 36th “Texas” Division across the Gari River in what would become known as the Battle of Rapido River in January of 1944.

    The crossing was off to a rocky start as, despite the fact that the river was unusually swollen and moving at a very rapid pace, General Clark ordered the attack. When the 36th made it across, the Germans were waiting for them, and the result was devastating for the Texas men of the 36th.

    After two days of fighting, the survivors retreated across the river in defeat with over 1,300 men killed or wounded and another 700 plus captured by the Germans. It was one of the worst disasters for the US military in World War 2. The Germans, on the other hand, are thought to have only lost about 65 men killed.
     
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  2. Squire Robertsson

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    I heard this a few years back:
    GEN Clark visited the set of the Audie Murphy movie To Hell and Back. They were both in uniform. Clark saluted Murphy as is the custom and tradition of rendering honors to a holder of the Medal of Honor. Murphy did not return the general's salute.
     
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    Interesting. Not sure exactly how I feel about that. I like it and don't at the same time.

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    Consider this:
    While both were in uniform, Clark was no longer on active service, he was president of The Citadel; Murphy was a captain in the Texas National Guard. So, the salute was purely a courtesy. Keep in mind, though, Murphy served in the 36 ID. So, this allowed him to show his hard feelings.
     
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    Just got to thinking, while Clarke would have been in the proper uniform (as I understand the regs, generals never really retire), but Murphy (Capt., TXNG) being in a sergeant's uniform might have considered himself to be in costume.
     
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    True.

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    Some sources say that it wasn't Clark but MG John Lucas (who was commander of the Anzio invasion before being replaced by MG Lucius Truscott) who visited the set of one of Murphy's films. Murphy, as a recipient of the Medal of Honor, was due the salute first, and returned Lucas' salute but refused to shake hands.

    But Murphy's biographer, Don Graham, apparently wrote that Murphy refused to salute Clark at some point (I don't have a copy of No Name Name on the Bullet, so I can't check the exact circumstances) because "Too many soldiers, who didn't have to, died at Anzio."

    I would welcome some documentation on the actual facts.
     
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    Lucas bears the blame for the losses at Anzio. After an unopposed landing, he failed to try to advance until the Germans had established a perimeter around the beachhead.

    Clark wasted the men of the 36th in several attempts at an impossible river crossing as a diversion for Anzio. He also bears a lot of the responsibility for Lucas's failure to exploit hi advantage by not impressing on him that time was of the essence, Both men should have been fired.

    Instead Clark took the cowards way out and blamed General Walker, commander of the 36th, for their failure to achieve their objective.

    That's the real problem Texans had with him.
     
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