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Featured Calvinists vs Armenians: A Challenging--But Senseless--Debate

Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by jomarc, Dec 13, 2016.

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  1. TCassidy

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    And who will call?

    And who will believe?
     
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    And who will believe. And who will answer?
     
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    Uh, "respond" is a Modern English word. And there are many modern English dictionaries.

    Now, if you want to go back to Hebrew and Greek I will play.

    I can't find "respond" in the NT of any English Bible I own. Perhaps you could recommend one that uses that word in the NT.

    However, my WEB bible uses "respond" in Proverbs 29:19, a translation of the Hebrew word מענה. And, guess what! It's a VERB! An ACTIVE VERB! Something you DO! :)
     
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    Where can you show me from scripture that our responding to God results in our regeneration?

    Can you even show me the word "respond" in the New Testament?
     
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    We can show you a response...that's a noun lol
     
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    At least you are trying. Very trying. :D:D:D:D
     
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    Those are required by sinners by God though in order to have them get saved, correct?
     
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    Only the Elect in Christ commanded to repent/believe and be saved...
     
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    And only the elect will have ears to hear with!
     
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    If you've never responded then you must be dead. If you are dead it's too late.
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    Show me in scripture
     
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    Jesus stated that only his own would heed his voice, only those whom the Father gave unto him to be saved, and that his parables were meant to give those blind spiritual more blindness, but would be received by his own!
     
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    Show me in scripture. when you do finally show me in scripture please also include just exactly who it was Jesus said he came for? (hint: it is a reference to a single nation)
     
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    John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
     
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    Matthew 1 1:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.

    It looks like Jesus is saying who He has hid it from here, nothing to do with the elect or non elect
     
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    John 10:27
    John 6:37
    Mark 4:10-13
    Enjoy!
     
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    is this pre conversion or after conversion?

    Matthew 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
     
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    Jesus was the Shepherd over BOTH Jews/Gentiles, not just over Israel!
     
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    Those who are hear to hear his voice are those due to the will of the Father...
     
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    None of those passages say "Jesus stated that only his own would heed his voice, only those whom the Father gave unto him to be saved, and that his parables were meant to give those blind spiritual more blindness, but would be received by his own!"

    And you did not include the context of who it was Jesus said He came for.
     
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