Low morals

Ironic that your title is low morals when the link you give is to the lowest kind of morality ... gossip and false statements.

 

Just an fyi that there are many posters who present positions that are controversial and different from the "traditional Baptist party line" who do not get their posts or threads deleted.

 

Correction Deeptruth. Your thread was not deleted, simply transferred (by one of the Forum Moderators) into the Moderator's Private Forum, in order to examine your intent if you are in compliance with our BB Posting Rules?

I have printed out your thread for my own reference, as I read easier from a printed page than from the monitor. I used Arial Narrow 9-point typeface and it came to 17 pages. As I have read your question and then have read the answers, it was evident right away that your question was loaded as you started to debate rather than collect data. In fact, you belittled some of the folks because of their believes and wrote: "My prayer go out to you for you do not realize what you do." It is evident from your answers to most posters that you look down upon them for their personal faith and belief. Now it is one thing to earnestly ask a question and see how people answer, and it is an altogether different matter to ridicule them for their faith and belief. Those actions are clearly in violation of our Posting Rules #2, 3, 4, and 5 (to mention a few).

I trust and hope that you will refrain from using similar discussion style, and instead you will join us to constructively contribute to the success of this great discussion board. Hope you will take to your heart, what I was trying to communicate to you and you'll rise for the occasion. Thank you, and God bless!

 

DT's: "Low Morals" ???

This is the Baptist-only section of the board.

You had to sign a statement before joining that you would follow the rules.

Follow those rules you originally agreed to and you should do just fine.

Rob

 

Deepertruth, thank you for your kind remarks about my name and your expression of love toward me, as quoted above. I do not think you know me well enough to make such an assertion, but I have never in my 66 years were taken back at personal criticism and the "truth" you are alleging to present. Just for you to know, the Lord has forgiven my sins well over 50 years now and have forever sealed me through the shed blood of His Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, on Golgotha. Praise the Lord, ever since that time He has been my guide to the truth and has been my example in the way of righteousness.

I do acknowledge His words to His disciples when He said, "For without me you can do nothing." Yes, I may be helpless and without much knowledge at times, but thank be to God that knowledge starts with fearing God, as we read in Proverbs 9:10 "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding." And I praise Him also for teaching me daily from His holy Words, the Bible to come to the "truth."

After reading your remarks to me, I noticed that you neglected to mention 1 Timothy 4:12b "...be thou an example of the believers, in word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, in faith, in purity." And if you are so keen of presenting the "truth," please remember the Bible directive which tells us that "But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:" (Ephesians 4:15). Forgive me for saying it, but some of your answers to your fellow posters failed to adhere to these Biblical precepts. Now, by reading your comments I observed that you love the Lord and you wish to communicate Biblical truths to your fellow men. What I would like to ask, however, is that you incorporate Ephesians 4:15 into your mode of communications and you will have nothing to fear from the BaptistBoard.com Administrative Council. So, what will it be? Will you continue to placate the BB with your diatribes or sit down to edify the readers? I pray that it be the latter.

 

It would appear to me that this person is riding a hobbyhorse of nonsense, and it just doesn't make any sense at all.

For example, this statement makes no sense whatever: "and in falsely trying to mary the evil of calvinism with osas arminian."

There is no question that baptist accept the baptism of the Spirit in the new birth, followed by the baptism in water as a step in obedience and as a witness to their conversion experience.

Arminians do not accept "once saved, always saved" period. I don't know what Mary has to do with any of it!

Cheers, and I do know in Whom I have believed and possibly for more years that you have physically lived,

Jim

 

Where do all these nuts come from?

 

Houston?

Joseph Botwinick

 

OK. I am convinced. You are in desperate need of the Lord, and should seek His face immediately.

Sincerely, in Him,

Jim

 

Thanks Brother Jim for stepping in and trying to understand.

Dear Deepertruth, heretofore you have been full of innuendos and accusations. You are saying much but your emotion driven sentences contain very little substance on which I could put my finger. One thing start to come through to me though. It appears that you are against water baptism. If I am incorrect in this assumption, please let me know. But now, if you say that water baptism is non essential in salvation, even if you are surprised, I agree with you 1,000%! Bible example: the thief on the cross. He was never baptized, yet he was together, that same day, with Jesus the Lord in paradise. As I know, there are certain desert regions in Africa as well as other parts of the world that water is a very precious commodity. While we Baptists believe in total immersion, in those regions it is impossible to follow the Biblical mandate. And while we are at it, we do not need to be baptized in order to be saved. For you are saved first and then you get baptized!

Those who teach that baptism is the washing off the sins of your life are not interpreting the Bible correctly. We, Baptists, are getting baptized to identify with the death, burial and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ. And we do it only as a testimony to others that we are already saved and follow Jesus in water baptism. As I believe it, a person must hear the Gospel first and repent, then believe that Christ died for his sins in order that he may be reconciled to God..... for in II Corinthians 5:18 we read: "And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation."

If this has been your gripe against me then I need you to realize where I stand in this issue, and like to put the record straight. My observation in your case was that you did not simply place a question before the BB readers and evaluate the data received of what other posters answered, but when they answered you took an issue with their belief system, questioned them and if they were differing with that of yours, you were not hesitant to call them unsaved and you even offered to pray for their salvation. In other words, you attempted to play the role of the accuser of the brethren and no one ought to do that. I can not tell purely on your writings heretofore if you are saved, and neither can you tell the same thing about me. So I am surprised that you make the assumption that I am not saved. If we can not come to a common denominator on Bible grounds, then it is futile to continue any further discussion. However, I'd like to suggest that we learn to agree to disagree. To me the words of the Lord are precious. When I read I John 2:6, where it says, "He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked," it ought to stir me up to do the walk in deed - not only in words. But if quoting the Bible verses, to show the extent of my faith and belief, is compared by you to the act of Satan, who was also quoting Scripture, then I do not think we can walk together on common ground. Amos 3:3 comes to mind: "Can two walk together, except they be agreed?"

So, I am asking again. What will it be? Are you going to rail upon the brethren or contribute something noble and noteworthy to the outreach ministry of the BB readership? You have to remember now, the BB is catering to believers and to seekers in well over 88 countries. I pray that you may think about what I have written and will ponder them in your heart. Have a good night, and the good Lord bless you as only He can!

 

And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Matthew 7:3

 

B.J.H.....PLEASE don't close this thread...even though DT isn't a baptist(and shouldn't be posting in this part of the forum)He most definitely IS an interesting specimen.This might just prove to be an interesting case study in how the god of this world confuses people....and this poor fellow needs our compassion and a lot of tender hearted help.

Greg Sr.

 

But if the BB bends the rule for this person, it is unfair to the other non-Baptists who follow the rule. I don't think that's right.

Baptists can post on the non-Baptist part, so those who want to help Deeper Truth can go to another thread, like the Other Christian Denominations thread where there are many "interesting specimens" for you. That way, it's being fair to the posters who obey the rules and yet it's also an option for those who want to help DT.

In fact, if you think DT is so interesting, you ought to jump down right now to Other Christian Denominations where you will have a ball talking to SDA followers, a Oneness follower, universalists, Roman Catholics, and a variety of people!