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I do not have an answer to your question - but I have just signed up for this forum and I do not know how to post a question - could someone help me?

 

Hi Cyndi,
Look for the new member introduction forum.
You can start a post in that forum to ask questions.
Look at the bottom of the thread list for the "start new thread" button.

Rob

 

Romans 8:9. 'Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.'
Pentecost was not the beginning of the Spirit's work, but at Pentecost He came in a much wider and more powerful way.

 

Thank you so much!!


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Yes.

Three seeds are involved.
1) Abraham's (stock/sperm) seed descendants, WHO, have the Seed of God, ie Christ.
2) Gentiles, WHO, have the Seed of God, ie Christ.
3) The Seed of God, ie Christ.

Any man (Jew or Gentile) who has the Seed of God (ie Christ), is a son of Abraham, whose "descendants" are people in nations throughout the world.

Gen.17

1. [5] Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.

Gal.3

1. [16] Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
2. [29] And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Heb.2

1. [16] For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.

Jesus took upon himself the seed of Abraham, so does everyone who has the Seed of God, ie Christ.
And in the day Abraham received the Seed of God (ie Christ) Abraham was glad.

John.8

1. [56] Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.

Heb.7

1. [1] For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him;

 

I'm sorry. I thought I'd made myself clear. Abraham died having the Sprit dwelling within him, as did all the O.T. saints..

 

And once again, fake theology is being posted and reposted. Abraham died under the Old Covenant. All these claims to apply New Covenant theology to Abraham's condition are bogus.

Abraham obtained approval by faith.

 

Hello everyone..newbie member here. An interesting question concerning Abraham. I think the answer, indirectly, is how would anyone enter into glory when they leave this earth? God crushed His on Son (Is 53) for the sins of His people. So Abraham would've been justified through imputation as the only means of Salvation (Mrk 1:15). I know all of this occurred "After" Abraham, but it had to have been true in his day, even though it was revealed/being revealed centuries later. Yes, Abraham was spirit filled--had to have been, else he would not be in glory now. Thoughts?

 

What would you see as being difference between the Old Covenant and new Covenant workings of Him?

 

First of all, The natural man [ie. the man without the Spirit; compare verse 15] does not receive the things of God, for they are foolishness to him' (1 Corinthians 2:14). I see no reason to suppose that these verses apply only to the NT era.

In answer to your question, the main difference in the New Covenant is that every true Christian is born of the Spirit (Romans 8:8-9). Under the Old Covenant, only a few people had the Spirit and therefore only a few were saved (Isaiah 1:9).

 

Every man, regardless of era, GAINS the "Seed of God" BY FAITH and SUBMISSION unto God.

An earthly man MUST become born again.
An earthly man Becomes born again BY his ("natural" spirit within from a "natural" earthly mans seed) becoming
BORN AGAIN BY Gods SEED entering the man and BIRTHING the man a NEW "spiritual" spirit.

^ NO FAITHFUL (submissive) MAN of the earth is EXCEPTED from the condition of HAVING TO BECOME born again.

And every FAITHFUL MAN who receives the SEED of God, does so "BY" the Word of God, ie Christ Jesus, who IS the SEED of God.

Mankind "witnessing" Jesus' "bodily" death, DID NOT WITNESS, WHEN the Word of God was "murdered" during the time the foundation of the earth was being laid. (Murdered BY Lucifer).
(ie the KILLING of Gods Word, WHEN, Lucifer thought he could supersede Gods Word, thus making Gods Word "not true" thus; killing Gods Word). Thus, Satan was a LIAR and MURDER from the beginning.

Rev 13

[8] And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Abraham was faithful, (as were others noted to us in Biblical history). As with others, the Word of God dwelt within Abraham. It does not matter IF Abraham knew or understood, the Word of God has a name, indwells, is Spirit, effects a mans "born again" spirit. <--- that understanding is given much later, after Abraham's bodily death.

Every man WHO becomes a saint is a man WHO is “sacred, physically pure, holy, sealed unto God.”

Every man WHO becomes a saint is a man WHO is "made" (ie, restored, changed, sanctified) WHOLE.

Every man WHO becomes a saint does so BY Faith in God and submission unto God;
The WHOLE of God; Word, Power, Name, etc.

No doubt Abraham was FAVORED, because of His Faith in God.
No doubt Abraham was made WHOLE, because of His Faith in God.
No doubt Abraham did not KNOW, the terms (ie born again), that we use today.

John.3

1. [3] Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
2. [7] Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

1Pet.1

1. [23] Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

Matt 9

[22] But Jesus turned him about, and when he saw her, he said, Daughter, be of good comfort; thy faith hath made thee whole.

Luke.17

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   • [19] And he said unto him, Arise, go thy way: thy faith hath made thee whole.

1Thes.5

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   • [23] And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

 

Would you see it then has God had a Covenant with israel as the nation, but not all under that were saved, but ALL under the new Covenant are saved, as not corporate, but individual salvation now?

 

Isn't that the natural implication of Jeremiah 31:31-34?

 

Nothing specific about Abraham. The day, which the LORD hath made. The LORD makes every day.

 

from whence also he received him in a figure.

Although that experience of Abraham IS A FORESHADOW, nothing says Abraham SAW JESUS.
Abraham received "him" (Isaac) back, FROM what Abraham THOUGHT would be Isaac's death.

Yes. However ^ THAT (Christ Jesus being raised was not knowledge Abraham had, to consider).

Abraham MET the king of Salem (Jerusalem) the Priest of God, the King of peace, (who IS Christ), and blessed Abraham.

Heb.7

1. [1] For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him;
2. [2] To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;
3. [3] Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.