The Day od the week of Jesus' Crucifixion and the Apostolic Constitutions

True on animal sacrifices, but on Passover Christ died and would not be available for the Sedar, so Christ, being smart as he is, held the Last Supper or Sedar before his death within the Passover week. </font>[/QUOTE]Your's is the usual explanation; it deserves contemplation because that is how most honest Christian have tried to understand it for all the centuries now : THAT IS WHAT MAKES IT DIFFICULT. They never proved another option; another possible explanation! The most obvious lies right at hand, that Jesus' actual and OWN, 'EATING' and 'DRINKING' of the PASSOVER, is explained and given, right there in the Scriptures as it tells of Jesus' EXPERIENCE of it - the PASSOVER of God - IN GETHSEMANE, where He prays to the Father to help Him empty the cup given Him to drink!
Notice that Jesus Himself did not eat or drink anything at the table of the Last Supper - that meal had ONE purpose for Jesus Christ: it was "TO PREPARE" for what lay ahead for Him, namely, the BREAKING of His Body for sin and the DRINKING of His Blood for sin - Jesus' 'observance' of the Passover Meal (Which once again, doesn't show any resemblance with the Jewish thing called 'Seder').
This was something NEW - the Christian Institution of "The Lord's Supper" as it is CALLED - it was NT observance.

 

Jesus' DEATH - His "TASTING death" - was the 'observance'; the perfect fulfilment of the Old Testament "Passover of God"-Institution, once for all, for the "sins of many".

 

To Ascund,
You sommer assumed I didn't read "the article" - not that it matters; but have you read my criticism against the 'Essene-theory'? No? If I remember correctly, try book 1, Goshen to Golgotha, Part one of it, 'Goshen to Gethsemane'. (The second part of it I called 'Gethsemane to Golgotha')
But you won't need it, if only you could cathch a glimpse of the true Passover of God, Jesus Christ our Lord Himself IN THE GIVING OF HIMSELF for us.

 

A bit of irony:
I did go after all to the wikipedia site on that "article" on the Essenes, and found that it was "cleared up to conform to a higher standard of quality"!

 

I have more than once explained 'my' "theology of the Sabbath", that Sabbath-faith should be Resurrection-Faith or it is neither Christian nor Faith. I it had been a "100% failure", then I have failed indeedin THIS effort of mine. I myself though, has found something to be really excited about about the Sabbath - that is Christ-centered and of Christ-essence. I have received this bountiful merciful discovery of why the CHURCH has reason to "feas" her "Sabbath Days" - as Colossians 2:15 gives us the assurance and encouragement in it: "BECAUSE / FOR": Christ has conquered, is Victor over the principalities of this world in that, according to verse 12 further of that same chapter, HE ROSE FROM THE DEAD!
That is my being messed up big deal and my 100% failure. I shall revel in it, and boast in Christ for it.

 

But you have failed so far to give me an answer to my question on this thread, where does the fiction of a Friday-crucifixion come from?

 

First you reject that "It had been evening already" in Mk.15:42 and Mt.27:57 before or when Joseph appeared on the scene and the Body was not taken off the cross YET. Then you just let go of this subject, and give a lengthy criticism of the date of the day referrd to in these Scriptures.
But it is obvious you paid NO attention to what I have written, because I do not hold the traditional view that does not allow for the 'PASSOVER-SABBATH' or "great / high day" according to Jn.19:31 on.
My point is, that this 'sabbath'-"high day" STARTED where one reads Jn.19:31 - it did not end.
My point again is, that the day referred to in Mk.15:42 and Mt.27:57, also STARTED and ended not, when Joseph began to undertake to obtain the Body for burial.
Here is 'my' chronology:
One: Nisan 14, Crucifixion and death on "The Preparation of the Passover (Jn.19:14) - STARTING though, with John 13:1f.
Two: Nisan 15, "Great Day (Sabbath of the Passover)", Interment - STARTING Mk.15:42, Mt.27:57.
Three: Nisan 16, Resurrection day - STARTING Lk.23:54-56, John 19:40, AFTER sunset supposed there - weekly Sabbath.
Four: Nisan 17 (third day of eating unleavened bread), day of first appearances - Sunday.
Simple; no need for extra-biblical support.

 

The Friday crucifixion hoax came from idiots in the Catholic monolith. By the year 313 when Christianity was legalized, they Catholic monolith was embroiled in a theology that repudiated Israel in eschatology. In the process, they had forgotten about Israeli customs regarding the Passover.

Being so blind to the common sense definition of "sabbath" referring to any Jewish high day, they only saw it as a reference to "saturday."

Thus they force fit one part of a day to mean the whole day and thus justified a Friday crucifixion. Idiots!

Lloyd </font>[/QUOTE]Sjoe, you sound a vicious fellow! Nevertheless, You may have a point there, though I don't understand it really, because I don't know what you mean with "monolith"? I thought it meant a stone in one piece?

 

Thanks for the information on the website, I'll certainly visit it!

Indeed there's a lot of similarity with 'mine'. Important point I differ with concerns the TIME OF the Resurrection "In Sabbath's-time" Mt.28:1.
Lloyd, PLEASE do read http://www.biblestudents.co.za. Unfortunately it is BULKY, so you must be prepared to patiently down-load each volume of 12, seperately. Together they are more than 3000 pages! Some direct html's are also there, and the longest one - on Galatians 4 - takes about an hour to download on an old PC like mine.

 

Quoting Prophecynut, "Nisan 16 - Friday sundown to Saturday sundown, cannot be Resurrection day. You have Nisan 14 as one night in the tomb, Nisan 15 as one day and the second night in the tomb and Nisan 16 as the second day. You have two nights and two days accounted for but need another day and night to make 3 each."

"You have ... one night in the tomb" ... "in the tomb" ... :
Answer:
First: WHERE does the "three days and three nights" BEGIN - WITH DYING AND DEATH, OR, "in the tomb"? I say it begins with Jesus' "hour come, now", "at the table" (Jn.13:1f) which was the START of the day of Crucifixion and death.
Two: WHAT was "in the heart of the earth"? See my previous posts! It was the DYING AND DEATH which ended with the RISING AND LIFE! It was not the body buried "in the tomb".
DYING AND DEATH starting 14 Nisan Thursday gives one of each of the "three days and three nights".

 

To Lloyd, with love, from "P-Nut" (GE),
Don't read too much into my admitting "a lot of similarity" - you will notice the absolute differences if you read that page.
You will find detailed analysis of the last week - the 'Passion-week'. There are thousands of oversights in Germano's summary!

 

To Ascund (Lloyd), with love, from P-Nut (GE),
Quote: "Sunday: the first day of the week. While it was still dark, the women came to the tomb bringing their spices."
How many correct statements do you find in this statement of Germano's? I find none! How many LIES do you find in it? I can IMMEDIATELY see one: The whole statement; Two: The Gospel that says, "While it was still dark", is not the Gospel that says, "the women came to the tomb bringing their spices". The first is John; the second is Luke. Theu mean - reading them - different things (continue shortly!)

 

Lie three: There is NO Gospel that uses the word "Sunday".
Lie four: "while still dark". The Greek means and says nothing but the simple: "While being early darkness still" - That was during the evening; not during the morning of daylight.
Lie four: The statement makes of the women, the same several women. But John speaks of ONE, "Mary"; while Luke speaks of SEVERAL; ETC. ETC.
HOW EASILY can a man be told ANY rubbish and he'll believe it ONLY because he WANTS to?