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Question about the 1000 years of Christs Reign..

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by benz, Nov 28, 2005.

  1. Hope of Glory

    Hope of Glory New Member

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    Well, to start things off, 1 Corinthians 15:24-27 tells us that Christ’s rule is temporary; it’s for 1000 years. God’s Kingdom is forever.
     
  2. Ed Edwards

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    It is implied by
    THE GREAT CONTROVERSY Between CHRIST and SATAN
    (Review and Herald Publishing Asso, 1907)
    by Mrs. E.G. White.

    (Who shows it from the Bible).

    Of course, it wasn't real popular so
    Herbert Armstrong dropped the 'Kingdom Trinity'
    idea. But Garner Ted Armstrong restored
    the 'Kingdom Trinity' when he tryed to
    take the Armstrongites into mainstream.

    BTW, till I moved two years ago, I
    voted at a 7-th Day Adventist Church.
    My Baptist chruch 2 blocks away was the
    voting place for another precint.
     
  3. Kamoroso

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    Matthew 4 17From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

    Jesus said that the kingdom of God was at hand, not one of the kingdoms of God, or one of God's kingdoms.

    1 Corinthians 15 24Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 25For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 26The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. 27For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 28And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

    Again, Christ delivers the kingdom up to God, not one of the kingdoms, or one of God's kingdoms. You are confusing different phases of establishing the kingdom of God, with different kingdoms of God. There is only one kingdom of God. Though it may be establihed within individuals at various times, it will be literally established on this earth by Christ, and it will be delivered by Him to His Father, when all things have been subjected to Christ.
    These are different phases of establishing God's kingdom, not different kingdoms. This was part of the eternal purpose in Christ Jesus.

    Bye for now. Y. b. in C. Keith
     
  4. BobRyan

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    In Daniel 7 we that it is not until after the rise of the 4th world empire (Pagan Rome) and its division into 10 - and the demise of the 11th kingdom that eventually began to persecute the saints AND the judgment is passed AND all persecution of the saints ends -- that The Kingdom is turned over to Christ.

    "Details".

     
  5. BobRyan

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    But as if that Daniel 7 sequence were not obvious for all to see clearly - God also gives us the one in Rev 19-20.

    First you have the "Coming of our Lord" in Rev 19 and then in Rev 20 "The 1000 year reign".

    It is incredibly obvious that this is future to our day!
     
  6. Ed Edwards

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    I believe that Jesus will reign on a physical
    throne of David on a physical earth in a physical
    Jerusalem. It hasn't happened yet. It will
    happen just after the tribulation period following
    the pretribulation rapture.
     
  7. BobRyan

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    The reign of Christ starts in Rev 20 right after the "coming of the Lord" described in chapter detail - in Rev 19.

    In Rev 20 that reign of Christ starts with the "FIRST RESURRECTION" Rev 20:5 which as we have seen is the one at the "Coming of the Lord" described in 1Thess 4 and also the timing (that it is after the revelation of the antichrist) is specified in 2Thess 2:1-5.

    It is all there in living Color.

    That means that Christ comes post-trib (2Thess 2 and Matt 24 point that out) and it is THEN that we have the FIRST Resurrection (Rev 19 and 20 point that out) and then we are gathered together to him (as 2Thess 2 and 1Thess 4 say) and taken to be WITH HIM in His heavenly home -- as John 14:1-3 and 1Thess 4 point out.

    They are all in complete agreement.

    Which is why the OT describes a "Desolate earth" during that time with all of earth's cities destroyed - and the earth left "formless and void" and there being "no man" on the planet - nor sun shinning nor moon shining nor dead bodied buried.

    In Christ,

    Bob
     
  8. prophecynut

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    Exactly.

    Three phases of the kingdom of heaven:

    Announcement of the kingdom Mt. 3:1-6
    Characteristics of the kingdom Mt. 13
    First phase ends; Mt. 13:30,40-42,49; Dn. 2:35,44; Zec. 14:14; Mt. 24:30; Rev. 19:11-16

    Second phase, the Millennium: Isa. 2:1-5; 27; Mt. 13:43; 24:31; 25:34; Rev. 20:4d.

    Third phase, eternal state: Isa. 65:17; 66:22; 1 Cor. 15:24; 2 Pet. 3:10,13; Rev. 21:1
     
  9. Me4Him

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    The Kingdom of Heaven is a "literal place", it's only mentioned in Matthew.

    The Kingdom of God is a "Spiritual Place", mentioned from Matthew to 2 thess.

    Zec 14:1 will give you an "idea" of what the MK will be like.

    So does Zec 8:1, Eze 47:1,
     
  10. prophecynut

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    Although dispensational theology has customarily made a theological distinction between these two terms, the simple fact is that they are quite interchangeable (cf. Mt. 19:23 with V. 24; Mk. 10:23).

    21:43
    The kingdom of God or kingdom of heaven was taken away from Israel and given to the Church, if the kingdom of heaven is a "literal place" then you and I would be living in Israel.
     
  11. DeafPosttrib

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    Ed,

    Scriptures please. [​IMG]

    In Christ
    Rev. 22:20 -Amen!
     
  12. Ed Edwards

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    I don't have time to do the research
    tonight, i have to study to teach
    my Sunday School lesson on Romans 9.

    These posts are not found in BB anymore, but in Google:

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    in forum Baptist Theology & Bible Study at BaptistBoard.com.

    Posted by Ed Edwards (Member # 4203) on March 13, 2005 03:51 PM:

    Whomever: "Amillennialists in general believe that the Old Testament promises not fulfilled in the Church will be fulfilled in the new heaven and new earth."

    So Damascus will be destroyed in the same new heaven and
    new earth in which babies play in the spider den?

    Whomever: "The glorious kingdom promised by God to His people in the Old Testament was to last forever, not one thousand years."

    I find it is dangerous to limit the power of God. I find that
    God has three Kingdoms of which two are:
    1) the etermal Kingdom
    2) the 1,000 year Physical Kingdom

    (sorry to mention it, i don't have the write-up done yet.
    Talk to my Boss about the scheduling problems [Wink] )


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    DeafPosttrib
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    posted December 02, 2004 06:52 PM

    1.We are already in kingdom of God/heaven.

    ...
    2. Dan. 2:44-45 have do nothing with Christ's coming.
    It talks about eternality kingdom.

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