How Wicked Were the People of Noah's Day? And Why No Detail?

There is nothing to read the scriptures are clear OT. Of course they were not designed to be human -be flesh, but could manipulate the physical realm . There is not ......in any biblical verse you quoted one thing which denies that!They could do as Genesis says. The scriptures do not contradict one another, only false interpretation contradicts the meaning of scripture.
The Corruption of Mankind Genesis6:1-22

1Now it came about, when men began to multiply on the face of the land, and daughters were born to them, 2that the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves, whomever they chose. 3Then the LORD said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” 4The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.

Nephilim are the offspring of the Sons of God and women. The Hebrews know this and so do most today who understand the Hebrew language which the scriptures were written in. The translation is not lost, people just find it all hard to swallow.

Nephilim: a giant race: which were the offspring of angels and women.
If you want to give an explanation outside of scriptures of HOW, GIANTS came to be have at it!

5Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great on the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6The LORD was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. 7The LORD said, “I will blot out man whom I have created from the face of the land, from man to animals to creeping things and to birds of the sky; for I am sorry that I have made them.” 8But Noah found favor in the eyes of the LORD.

9These are the records of the generations of Noah. Noah was a righteous man, blameless in his time; Noah walked with God. 10Noah became the father of three sons: Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

11Now the earth was corrupt in the sight of God, and the earth was filled with violence. 12God looked on the earth, and behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted their way upon the earth.

13Then God said to Noah, “The end of all flesh has come before Me; for the earth is filled with violence because of them; and behold, I am about to destroy them with the earth. 14“Make for yourself an ark of gopher wood; you shall make the ark with rooms, and shall cover it inside and out with pitch. 15“This is how you shall make it: the length of the ark three hundred cubits, its breadth fifty cubits, and its height thirty cubits. 16“You shall make a window for the ark, and finish it to a cubit from the top; and set the door of the ark in the side of it; you shall make it with lower, second, and third decks. 17“Behold, I, even I am bringing the flood of water upon the earth, to destroy all flesh in which is the breath of life, from under heaven; everything that is on the earth shall perish. 18“But I will establish My covenant with you; and you shall enter the ark—you and your sons and your wife, and your sons’ wives with you. 19“And of every living thing of all flesh, you shall bring two of every kind into the ark, to keep them alive with you; they shall be male and female. 20“Of the birds after their kind, and of the animals after their kind, of every creeping thing of the ground after its kind, two of every kind will come to you to keep them alive. 21“As for you, take for yourself some of all food which is edible, and gather it to yourself; and it shall be for food for you and for them.” 22Thus Noah did; according to all that God had commanded him, so he did.

 

Peter and Jude seem though to indicate that fallen Angels lusted after strange flesh, and fell into sin with women, with results being the gods and heros of legend and myth.
Do I think demons had spiritual sperm? No, but do think they possessed and took over men to do their acts with the women.

 

SDA has really bad theology, as they elevate the false prophetess ellen white to being a modern day Apostle!

 

Some think 'Angels' [heavenly created beings] can procreate [even with humans]. The Scripture [KJB], says, "But the wise answered, saying, Not so ...", not merely due to the nature of the 'Angels' themselves, but even moreso, and in the most serious manner, because such a grossly distorted and mistaken notion wages war against the very Everlasting Gospel, even the Mystery of Godliness, itself; and thus Jesus Christ Himself.

A specific person [whom will not be the object of this thread, but the disastrous theology espoused by them thereby], who shall remain nameless upon my part, stated their case, after a low 'carnal' fashion, in brief, this way [red highlights and bold added]:

a specific person said:
...4. Jesus said there is neither marriage nor giving in marriage. Which part of that says angels can't have sex? When they visited Abraham, they sure looked like men, and they ate meat. When they visited Sodom, the men lusted after them. They certainly can walk in human bodies. Jacob in Genesis 32 wrestled with one...
Let us see what the Scripture has to say in detail. Then pray, seek and ask God for the Truth, as it is written, and choose whom ye would serve, for if such notions as made by "a specific person" are found to be in error, this person should humbly and openly repent of such assertions, for Scripture is clear that error cannot ever sanctify, for only the Truth sanctifies [John 17:17,19].

#1 One Baptism, May 5, 2015

Full context of what Jesus said:

The Sadducees and the Resurrection Matthew 22:29-31
…29Jesus replied, “You are mistaken because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. 30In the resurrection, people will neither marry nor be given in marriage. Instead, they will be like the angels in heaven. 31But concerning the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what God said to you:…

People need to stop misrepresenting the Lord's words. Scripture does not contradict itself. The OT is clear and the NT supports the OT . The way you only pick and choose what works for you, you imply that there are LIES within the WORD.

KEY WORDS: Instead are LIKE the angels IN HEAVEN. Like those who did not rebel and transgress the WORD, nor left their former estate. Is Satan in heaven, are the 1/3 he took with him in heaven, are the watchers in heaven who left their former estate?
No! Stop trying to make the Word of God seem as though it contains contradictions and lies for your own personal gratification .

WE ARE LIKE THE ANGELS IN HEAVEN. NOT THOSE CAST OUT!

 

Again, THE SCRIPTURES DO NOT LIE! They do not say the Son's of God entered first into mortal men and possessed them , then when into women and made offspring. You are now adding to the Word that which is not there, this because you refuse to believe the Word!

The Corruption of Mankind Genesis6:1-22

1Now it came about, when men began to multiply on the face of the land, and daughters were born to them, 2that the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves, whomever they chose. 3Then the LORD said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” 4The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.

Nephilim are the offspring of the Sons of God and women. The Hebrews know this and so do most today who understand the Hebrew language which the scriptures were written in. The translation is not lost, people just find it all hard to swallow.

Nephilim: a giant race: which were the offspring of angels and women.
If you want to give an explanation outside of scriptures of HOW, GIANTS came to be have at it!

5Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great on the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6The LORD was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. 7The LORD said, “I will blot out man whom I have created from the face of the land, from man to animals to creeping things and to birds of the sky; for I am sorry that I have made them.” 8But Noah found favor in the eyes of the LORD.

9These are the records of the generations of Noah. Noah was a righteous man, blameless in his time; Noah walked with God. 10Noah became the father of three sons: Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

11Now the earth was corrupt in the sight of God, and the earth was filled with violence. 12God looked on the earth, and behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted their way upon the earth.

13Then God said to Noah, “The end of all flesh has come before Me; for the earth is filled with violence because of them; and behold, I am about to destroy them with the earth. 14“Make for yourself an ark of gopher wood; you shall make the ark with rooms, and shall cover it inside and out with pitch. 15“This is how you shall make it: the length of the ark three hundred cubits, its breadth fifty cubits, and its height thirty cubits. 16“You shall make a window for the ark, and finish it to a cubit from the top; and set the door of the ark in the side of it; you shall make it with lower, second, and third decks. 17“Behold, I, even I am bringing the flood of water upon the earth, to destroy all flesh in which is the breath of life, from under heaven; everything that is on the earth shall perish. 18“But I will establish My covenant with you; and you shall enter the ark—you and your sons and your wife, and your sons’ wives with you. 19“And of every living thing of all flesh, you shall bring two of every kind into the ark, to keep them alive with you; they shall be male and female. 20“Of the birds after their kind, and of the animals after their kind, of every creeping thing of the ground after its kind, two of every kind will come to you to keep them alive. 21“As for you, take for yourself some of all food which is edible, and gather it to yourself; and it shall be for food for you and for them.” 22Thus Noah did; according to all that God had commanded him, so he did.

If you do NOT believe the WORD then STOP preaching or using any of the WORD because you only make yourself sound double minded and as a hypocrite. The Word is clear do NOT add to it, because greater judgement comes upon those who do! Just a warning.

 

It is amazing how, just to find some relevance before men, people will ignore OBVIOUS statements in scripture. They do so that their own views and topics of discussion will be embraced. They reject the OBVIOUS ANSWERS which GOD has given. They continue , in the face of God- to ignore the truth. It is like : the math teach has already shown 2+2=4 and the students still carry on trying to find another answer, because they do not agree with it or simply do not get it. Makes no difference to the correct answer though. They quarrel , and bloviate ,and clap for each other giving each other accolades when one gives an answer they want to hear because it plays into their own obvious feeble mindedness! I feel sad for you , but take comfort- God's word will help you understand, if you stop and truly listen with your hearts.
Thessalonians 5:14
14Now we exhort you, brethren, warn them that are unruly, comfort the feebleminded, support the weak, be patient toward all men.
People like praise and pats on the back more than the WORD OF GOD. They would rather keep jumping through hoops and twisting the Word, contradicting themselves and others and rejecting TRUTH, just to be right. This is a warning, the Word of God will NOT be undermined !

Keep throwing out BIG words to sound relevant, as though BIG words will save you or change the fact you ignore God, and misrepresent His words. Again we are LIKE the HEAVENLY ANGELS not those cast out for going against their design. They used their knowledge of good and evil to do evil. For the angels were designed with both knowledge's ,this is called freewill. They exercised their will wrongly.
The Expulsion from Paradise Genesis 3:21-23
21The LORD God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife, and clothed them. 22Then the LORD God said, "Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil; and now, he might stretch out his hand, and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever"-- 23therefore the LORD God sent him out from the garden of Eden, to cultivate the ground from which he was taken.…

Lucifer was the covering cherub in the garden , the tree of the knowledge of good and evil represented a choice and him ironically and what he would expose man to. A cherub is to guard from evil, he instead lead into evil. He TRANSFORMED into a snake,
to beguile Eve. He could not do that as his spirit angel appearance, because then he could not deceive. Eve saw him as a guardian at the tree. Proof Lucifer was the guardian cherub in the garden and went up and down from before the throne of God to the garden.

Ezekiel 28:13-19

13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.

19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.
Angels can make sperm, just as they can translocate and become different forms, this is called powers. They can manipulate the physical and can manifest as physical= take on physical form. Are they suppose to act out in sin when in physical form? No! Can they take on physical form, yes. And there are many occasions in scripture where angels do. The heavenly angels however, never defiled themselves when in form as the ones who left their former estate did.That does not mean they can't. FREEWILL means free to love God or not. God did not make robots, He desire that all men and angels do good but freewill means you can choose to love God freely or not!

An instance in the Word (among many) when angels take on form.

Abraham's Celestial Visitors Genesis 18:1-3
1Now the LORD appeared to him by the oaks of Mamre, while he was sitting at the tent door in the heat of the day. 2When he lifted up his eyes and looked, behold, three men were standing opposite him; and when he saw them, he ran from the tent door to meet them and bowed himself to the earth, 3and said, "My lord, if now I have found favor in your sight, please do not pass your servant by.…
One of course was Yeshua the other two men were angels. MEN, not angels in their spirit appearance but in the form of MEN.
I would go on but I think people can look into the scriptures themselves too and find occasions when angels take on form.

Just because an angel takes on form does not mean his freewill is taken away and he can not act in obedience or disobedience.
God Bless!

 

ALL PRIDE, ARROGANCE AND THE SELF ABASED KNOWLEDGE OF MEN, WILL BE CRUSHED UNDER FOOT LIKE A SERPENT UNDER THE HEAVY POWER OF THE FOOT OF GOD! The Word will never contradict itself , AND EVERY MAN WHO SAYS IT DOES WILL FALL PROSTRATE BEFORE THE LORD. If one does not know the deep wisdom and mysteries of God , then one should not attempt to venture there. It is only by the Holy Spirit that the meaning of scriptures are revealed. For the scriptures are God breathed. Still-NOT ONE THING HAS BEEN DISPROVED that I have shared. Scales still tipped in my favor. Why? Because I take God at His WORD, I do not question Him!
Romans 9:20
20But who are you, O man, to talk back to God?
It is not against me(flesh) you fight, but against the Word. I will always win, as will all who take God at His word and stand solely upon THAT!

 

Those who deny the Word and speak the philosophy of men make themselves out to be idols. Those who listen to them rather than the word are guilty of idol worship! An idol is anything or anyone put above God and His Word!
Psalm 20:8
They have bowed down and fallen, But we have risen and stood upright.

Psalm 46:10
"Cease striving and know that I am God; I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted in the earth."

Isaiah 2:16
Against all the ships of Tarshish And against all the beautiful craft.

Isaiah 2:18
But the idols will completely vanish.

Isaiah 5:16
But the LORD of hosts will be exalted in judgment, And the holy God will show Himself holy in righteousness.

Isaiah 30:18
Therefore the LORD longs to be gracious to you, And therefore He waits on high to have compassion on you. For the LORD is a God of justice; How blessed are all those who long for Him.

Isaiah 2:11 The lofty looks of man shall be humbled, and the haughtiness of men …

 

The wise will never be taken in by want to be spiritual gurus. The wise come up against all lies, to edify the ill informed and those who misinterpret. Everyone wants to be a ruler, but not over the WORD! I would have sat quite and watch all implode,( that has happened ) but the odor of affliction was so great, arising from certain post it was time to interject. I have been mocked, and attacked and I am blessed that I could be- for no student is above the teacher. As the teach was mocked and scorned so is his household.
The taunts by some who call themselves Christian is unbelievable. No evidence against what I shared nor any sound doctrine, just taking phrases of my responses and insulting them. Yeah, real Christian. NO one here is looking to really learn but to teach from a misfit knowledge based in PRIDE!

The Way of Wisdom Proverbs 9:8-10
…8Do not reprove a scoffer, or he will hate you, Reprove a wise man and he will love you. 9Give instruction to a wise man and he will be still wiser, Teach a righteous man and he will increase his learning. 10The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, And the knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.…

So, far the writing's of Enoch stand! But NOT one word from those who attack him! Why? Because the scriptures support what he said.

Preceding Generations Forgotten Ecclesiastes 1:8-10
…8All things are wearisome; Man is not able to tell it. The eye is not satisfied with seeing, Nor is the ear filled with hearing. 9That which has been is that which will be, And that which has been done is that which will be done. So there is nothing new under the sun. 10Is there anything of which one might say, "See this, it is new "? Already it has existed for ages Which were before us.…

Enoch witnessed it , wrote about it ,history itself is against you, the test of time mocks you, for that which precedes you speaks against you, and against this present time but not scripture because it is in lock step and is the WORD!