Antichrist?

Sorry robycop3,

I reread my previous post and I think it may have sounded mean and sometimes I do that.

I agree with the first paragraph. The second one could be true. I know that God can be suprising at times. I mean Jesus was literally from the line of David, but not a literal King in the manner the Jews and scholars expected.

I believe what you say is a possibility. But I do not believe it is a certainty as you do. My position is unlikely to change anytime soon. And I’d rather move beyond this than remain focused on this theological difference we have.

I believe we both believe that Jesus will certainly come again.

Marty

 

I will start with this:
The King Who Exalts Himself Daniel11:37-39
…37He will show no regard for the gods of his fathers, nor for the one desired by women, nor for any other god, because he will magnify himself above them all. 38And in their place, he will honor a god of fortresses— a god his fathers did not know— with gold, silver, precious stones, and riches. 39He will attack the strongest fortresses with the help of a foreign god and will greatly honor those who acknowledge him, making them rulers over many and distributing land for a price.…

There are and have been many antichrist:
Beware of Antichrists 1John17-19
17The world is passing away along with its desires, but whoever does the will of God remains forever. 18Children, it is the last hour; and just as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have appeared. This is how we know it is the last hour. 19They went out from us, but they did not belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us. But their departure made it clear that none of them belonged to us.…

There is a difference between this leader and past antichrist. There have been antichrist since the coming of Christ. We must break down the words of Daniel carefully and then a picture will emerge. I will not say WHO exactly is the man of sin. He will be revealed when satan is casted down from the first heaven=cosmos or space what we know as the universe. Right now the Arch angel Michael is the restrainer, and is keeping him at bay. But at any time from the bringing forth of the 'Male Child' of Rev12 on- he will be cast down. Right now satan is spiritually before the Woman who is bringing forth.Satan is before her through the world and in spirit. He attacks day and night. However, there is coming a period of time when satan himself will be relegated to a man host. This is the false mirror image of Christ , who is God Incarnate, he will claim himself as this. If you look in Daniel , it states :"he will have NO regard for the gods of his fathers." Yet says :"he will honor a god of fortresses- a god his fathers did not know-".

So, what is this man honoring? We learn through Solomon there is nothing new under the sun.

Everything is Futile Ecclesiastes 1:7-9
…7All the rivers flow into the sea, yet the sea is never full; to the place from which the streams come, there again they flow. 8All things are wearisome, more than one can describe; the eye is not satisfied with seeing, nor the ear content with hearing. 9What has been is what will be, and what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun.…

So what is this god? If we look throughout history and all the ancient cultures, paganism abounds. Every culture has the same experience concerning the "gods from the stars" Even in our Hebraic heritage, we see in Genesis the 'Sons of God' and Enoch elaborates. Only eight people were preserved in the Ark as our God tells us through His Word. The only culture in which these,
"gods from the stars" were not glorified is in our Hebraic Christian heritage.

So, now since we know there is nothing new under the sun, this then means a new invented name for the same garbage that has already been. What has the world been preened to believe in, in more recent times,( EXTRATERRESTRIAL). satan has a new reinvent self image. This is the god of fortresses.

I will continue this post with another reply in case I run out of space. I hate that!

 

The extraterrestrial deception is promoted by many in the scientific community. It is funny how satan has deceived men to accept this reinvented self he has designed. Man has always believed in gods, only the Israelites had a different experience than all other cultures. While they were not strangers to the worship of other than the only one true God, they are the only ones who were made acquainted with Him. Theirs is the only different experience from others on the planet. To me there is something to be said about that. This extraterrestrial garbage is just a deception to get people on board with what has already been ,for there is nothing new under the sun. AGAIN: Everything is Futile Ecclesiastes 1:8-9 8 All things are wearisome, more than one can describe; the eye is not satisfied with seeing, nor the ear content with hearing. 9What has been is what will be, and what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun. 10Is there a case where one can say, “Look, this is new”? It has already existed in the ages before us.…
The science community want's to give a new interpretation to what has already been and call it extraterrestrial. Enoch and Genesis have already spoken as to what was. Man through denying God want's to romanticize about what is fallen angel influence and call it extraterrestrial. This, so people will again fall prey to these evil beings, they who were given free will and chose evil. Take a poll for yourself, ask people if they believe in UFO's and life on other planets and galaxies. You will be taken a back at how many believe yes! More people believe in that garbage than do our God.

There is no reason to reinvent things as many scientist do, but godless men are taken in by the same spirits of the past. In the name of progress and scientific discovery they are perpetrating this fraudulent narrative. This is all secret society, esoteric garbage the faithful have been warned about. There is nothing new under the sun, just a different name for the same garbage. These same men use the Book of Enoch to explain their theories and say all within the Book is actually extraterrestrial not supernatural, like they know this as true, yet they can not disprove the faithfuls claims
I am sure most Christian have seen these "Astronaut Theorist" on the History channel. Everything to them is extrattersetrial not supernatural. .ex·tra·ter·res·tri·alˌekstrətəˈrestrēəl/adjectiveadjective: extraterrestrial; adjective: extra-terrestrial1.of or from outside the earth or its atmosphere.
su·per·nat·u·ralˌso͞opərˈnaCH(ə)rəl/adjectiveadjective: supernatural1.(of a manifestation or event) attributed to some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature.
This series on History, is a clever attempt at discrediting the bible and what all ancient cultures experienced and call it all extraterrestrial. You will notice how excited they are about their views. They are NOT discrediting the pagan cultures and their practices or their marvels of engineering but glorifying them and rejecting scriptural accounts . They do not call these beings angels or gods all is extraterrestrial. They even call the Creator this so that God appears non existent . In their opinion the fallen angels as "extraterrestrial beings "who brought great things, are not the bad guys as our faith teaches. These men think they are sooooo intellectual, and can reinvent what the ancients wrote about thousands of years ago. They have NO proof- yet they pedal their nonsense. And if you notice they use the bible to support their claims yet deny Enoch's and the bible's narrative that these beings were bad because the pagans said they brought great knowledge to them and they were their gods of choice. Yet their gods required continual human sacrifice and debauchery to remain "blessed" and our Hebrew God just desired obedience and a rejection of perverted, sick practices. Now today , all these ancient pagan cultures which have been destroyed are being brought to life by godless men, I guess they have not paid attention to HISTORY! These men are still worshiping creation and not the Creator. Destruction! This is what is going to happen today to all pagan cultures and only TRUTH will remain. Blind guides of blind men are these History Channel scientist , they are drinking and serving up the end time deception! All things are wearisome, more than one can describe!

 

Oh, I just want to put this out there that the faithful may precede in caution: Trumps "Space FORCE" not saying too much ,just putting his idea out there. Not saying he has anything to do with what is coming or that he doesn't. I am just saying we are entering into the fullness of the alien deception period.
Matthew 24:37-39
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

What kind of marrying was going on in Noah's time?

 

There are still future events coming, Great tribulation, Man of Sin, Armageddon, and Second Coming, new World order!
All of Jesus fulfillment of the OT were actual and physical, so why not those of His Second Coming also?

 

Now I would like to break things down a little more:
'god of fortresses'
fortress has to do with war and can also represent a fortified place.
All evil is called satan (Betrayer of God) all fallen angels are this ,(betrayers) before God.
What one does they are all in collusion of doing.

The bible reveals who the particular angel is he honors and so does the Book of Enoch.
This will be multifaceted in break down and I might have to continue to post for the information to be conveyed.
Most of the time I myself am surprised at where the Spirit of God leads me and what is revealed off the cuff to me.
Daniel11: 39He will attack the strongest fortresses with the help of a foreign god and will greatly honor those
who acknowledge him, making them rulers over many and distributing land for a price.…

Just some more food for thought: I have bibles which say "with the help of an alien god" Does it make a differ-
ence? No because we all know that alien means foreign in any case. But, could our God have meant exactly as to
what I pointed out unbeknown to all?

Could our beloved Daniel have been shown exactly what was coming, not that anyone would see this- but could
this be for now, the understanding of "alien" . Could this prophecy be stating in exact terms "alien" as believers
come to use this word?



Now:

Job 26:6

Sheol is naked before Him, and Abaddon has no covering.

The Fifth Trumpet Rev.9;10-11

…10They had tails with stingers like scorpions, which had the power to injure people for five months. 11They
were ruled by a king, the angel of the abyss. His name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek it is Apollyon.
12The first woe has passed. Behold, two woes are still to follow.…



for·tress

'fôrtr?s/

noun

noun: fortress; plural noun: fortresses



a military stronghold, especially a strongly fortified town fit for a large garrison.

synonyms: fort, castle, citadel, blockhouse, stronghold, redoubt, fortification, bastion;

fastness

"the fortress fell into the hands of the French"

a heavily protected and impenetrable building.

figurative

a person or thing not susceptible to outside influence or disturbance.

"he had proved himself to be a fortress of moral rectitude"



Origin

He will honor a god of fortresses? This is the angel who taught man the "art" of war

"1. And Azâzêl taught men to make swords, and knives, and shields, and breastplates, and made known to them
the metals and the art of working them, and bracelets, and ornaments, and the use of antimony, and the beautify-
ing of the eyelids, and all kinds of costly stones, and all colouring tinctures. 2. And there arose much godless-
ness, and they committed fornication, and they were led astray, and became corrupt in all their ways. Semjâzâ
taught enchantments, and root-cuttings, Armârôs the resolving of enchantments, Barâqîjâl, (taught) astrology,
Kôkabêl the constellations, Ezêqêêl the knowledge of the clouds, , and Sariêl the course of the moon. And as
men perished, they cried, and their cry went up to heaven . . .

Military will be fully involved in this deception.Think about it, look at military documentaries concerning
UFO's.

A fortress is also a containment which is fortified. Where were the Watchers placed?

They were placed underground and rocks seal the entry. They will be released at the final chapter of the end of
the age. These are those who defiled themselves with women and left their former estate. Azazel is responsible
for teaching men the dark art of war.

He is called Abaddon in Hebrew and it means 'Destroyer'. Azazel is the god he honors.
Like Lucifer was called a new name (satan) Azazel is called Adaddon=Destroyer. We know the man who honors him , brings
gold silver and precious gems to him, but Daniel says he proclaims himself as god ? This is because he receives Abaddon in his being and therefore honors himself . This is creepy! I do not think man could make a creepier movie for what is going to happen in this present reality.

The Mark of the Beast is not here yet. It exist but for it to be given first the distress of nations must come. We have heard of wars and rumors of wars, but the end is not yet.

Daniel 11:
39He will attack the strongest fortresses with the help of a foreign - (alien) god and will greatly honor those who acknowledge him, making them rulers over many and distributing land for a price.…

This has to do with Rev.13
This is multifaceted as I said, I know the meaning of the image but I will not share that yet. For now all I will say that a blow to the present beast system is coming, it will knock kingdoms off their feet for a little while, and once that wound heals there will be new kingdoms involved in it. And from this distress will come the Mark.
Revelation 13
13 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
This is where Daniels 11:39 prophecy supports the Rev.
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.

10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
During this period of time the Witness are on the scene. Rev.11, why? The blow to the head is the first Woe of Rev12:12.
I know this by the Holy Spirit leading me to order of events. If you read Rev.11 we learn that the beast out of the abyss= who this man of sin honors kills them.
Rev.11:7
7When the two witnesses have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up from the abyss will wage war with them, and will overpower and kill them

When they resurrect the SECOND WOE IS PAST, so this means they must appear within the FIRST WOE REV.12:12.
The first Woe affects the earth and the sea, and all people on earth. this is a major calamity=distress of nations, the blow to the head of the Beast on the sea. It takes a little time for the system to reboot, hence is why the witnesses begin their time of prophecy during the first Woe.

CONTINUES...............

 

Witnesses Against Israel Amos3:5-7

…5Does a bird land in a snare where no bait has been set? Does a trap spring from the ground when it has noth-
ing to catch? 6If a trumpet sounds in a city, will the people not tremble? If calamity comes to a city, has not the
LORD caused it? 7Surely the Lord GOD does nothing without revealing His plan to His servants the proph-
ets.…

I believe the first trumpets that sound are the beginning of the first Woe. I believe it will be during Trump's presi-
dency . I believe God is revealing this to His servants simply by the name Trump- that the trumpets are about to
sound.

The First Four Trumpets Rev.8:6-13



6And the seven angels with the seven trumpets prepared to sound them.



7Then the first angel sounded his trumpet, and hail and fire mixed with blood were flung to the earth. A third of
the earth was burned up, along with a third of the trees and all the green grass.



8Then the second angel sounded his trumpet, and something like a great mountain burning with fire was thrown
into the sea. A third of the sea turned to blood, 9a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the
ships were destroyed.

I believe the BEGINNING of the first Woe consist of the first two trumpets because if you read Rev.12:12:

Revelation 12:12

12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea!
for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

The Woe has to do with the earth and sea and the first two trumpets affect those. This is the beginning of the
first Woe, there are actually five trumpets which sound during the first Woe as you have read.



Cont. Rev. 8:10-13

10Then the third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star burning like a torch fell from heaven and landed on
a third of the rivers and on the springs of water. 11The name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters
turned bitter like wormwood oil, and many people died from the bitter waters.



12Then the fourth angel sounded his trumpet, and a third of the sun and moon and stars were struck. A third of
the stars were darkened, a third of the day was without light, and a third of the night as well.



13And as I observed, I heard an eagle flying overhead, calling in a loud voice, “Woe! Woe! Woe to those who
dwell on the earth, because of the trumpet blasts about to be sounded by the remaining three angels!”

I will stop at these first four trumpets, if it is the Lords will I will share more. I look forward to reading all the
post in this thread, great topic. Oh one more thing the Holy and Chosen will not die by these acts of God.This is
war against the beast system, but it will be the worst time in human existence concerning experiences. The
Elect? That is another thread. God Bless!

 

Since I am already head deep into this discussion I thought this would be interesting viewing .Since we are delving into what is considered unusual this fits right in. The Book of Enoch does tell the location of the Watchers. If you watch and you think about what has been going on in the location revealed in this video it is possible. Just keep as food for thought. I do not support everything this man represents or interprets concerning scripture. He is ,I believe a seeker as we all are, and that means we shall find. What he says is in the Book, that is the point.

 

OfLivingWaters,

Concerning the last reply you made above this post of mine..

Compare those events with what I've said about "Armageddon". It's very relevant. These things you speak of in your last reply above mine, are describing the events of Armageddon with large multiple rock fragments and the "results" of the "events".

Again, if you live near the Pacific Plate ~ move.

 

I'm referring to your reply above your video.

 

Some more information:
Daniel12:5
5Then I, Daniel, looked and saw two others standing there, one on this bank of the river and one on the opposite bank.
This has to do with the Two witnesses. He was given a vision of their time of prophecy. Interestingly enough Daniel's chp.12 prophecy correlates with the Rev.12 prophecy in which the 'Male Child' is brought forth. During this time the Two Prophets of God also emerge. For they possess the' Male Child ' They are part of this birth too! As I have said in previous post the sign in the heavens which concluded over Israel and was in its fullness Sept.23-24 2017 is a big deal.

I am going to put this next revelation here because our beloved Daniel mentioned them.

WHO ARE THE TWO WITNESSES????????

They are not Moses and Elijah. Rev. 10:8-11 is very clear, as to one (Then the
voice which I had heard from heaven spoke to me again , saying, "Go, take the the scroll which is open in the
hand of the angel who is standing on the sea and on the land." So I went to the angel and told him to give me
the little scroll; and he said to me, " Take it and eat; it will be bitter to your stomach, but sweet as honey in your
mouth." And I took the little scroll from the hand of the angel and ate it; it was sweet as honey in my mouth, but
when I had eaten it my stomach was made bitter.



And I WAS TOLD , " YOU MUST AGAIN PROPHESY ABOUT MANY PEOPLES AND NATIONS AND
TONGUES AND KINGS." Meaning: He has already prophesied to many peoples and nations and tongues and
kings through the Revelation he received and gave to the world. Now he must again prophesy ABOUT

meaning amongst- before- about them. The scroll was sweet in his mouth because the Word of God in utterance
is sweet but is bitter for the persecution and martyrdom it brings. St. John is the only apostle who did not expe-
rience martyrdom. He will now.

Jesus and the Beloved Apostle John 21:21-23Enoch is the other witness. TO WITNESS- meaning: to give ac-
count of those things which have already been seen. St. John and Enoch saw the end of days in their entirety and
the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven. They both heard the thunders of God.

Jesus and the Beloved Apostle John21:21-23

…21When Peter saw him, he asked, “Lord, what about him?” 22Jesus answered, “If I want him to remain until
I return, what is that to you? You follow Me!” 23Because of this, the rumor spread among the brothers that this
disciple would not die. However, Jesus did not say that he would not die, but only, “If I want him to remain un-
til I return, what is that to you?”…

Elijah already came- Matthew 17:10-13 And the disciples asked Him, " Then why do the scribes say that first
Elijah must come?"

He replied, " Elijah does come, and he is to restore all things; but I tell you that Elijah has already come, and
they did not know him, but did to him whatever they pleased. So also the Son of Man will suffer at their hands."



Then the disciples understood that He was speaking to them of John the Baptist.
There is what is called" Order
of Events." Elijah could not come after Christ's first coming but had to prepare souls for His first coming.
He instituted in Christianity the cleansing ,the Rite of baptism, which makes clear or straight the path of the Lord. The
scriptures do not lie. People sometimes misinterpret them unintentionally. Never assume anything about the will
of God.? He made straight and clear the way of the Lord then and still does, through this Rite ,of baptism by
water in the Holy Spirit. This cleanses use of original sin. Thus, prepares the way of the Lord to our souls.

 

Yes, Jesus will return. That's a central theme of most Scripture.

Remember Jesus' parable about the nobleman who went on a long journey to receive his kingdom? Jesus is that nobleman, and He's still on His "journey".

And remember what Paul wrote, that the "day of the Lord" wouldn't come til the "man of sin" sat in the temple proclaiming himself to be God. Well, that did NOT occur in the temple standing in Paul's time, which is now destroyed. Thus, for that prophecy to be fulfilled, there MUST be another temple built in Jerusalem. there's no other way for that prophecy to be fulfilled, and we all know it MUST be fulfilled!

 

I don't believe Scripture leaves us any doubt that there will be a great evil world ruler who will be the most-evil person to ever live, who will make Hitler seem to be a naughty toddler in comparison. Even Hitler acknowledged God, while this coming ruler won't. Instead, he will proclaim himself to be God.

This man is called antichrist, beast, man of sin, & "that Wicked" in Scripture. Yes, this will all be the same man! He will have a miracle-working false prophet as his deputy, who will almost equal his boss in evil.

They will be so-evil that when Jesus returns, both will be cast alive, without dying, directly into the lake of fire. They won't pass "GO" nor collect $200!

I hope that whoever reads this & isn't saved, will come to Jesus NOW, so as not to be here when this evil man assumes power & the great tribulation hits earth, along with all this man's evil.

 

God Bless! You summed it up! May the Lord of all righteousness protect you and yours. Peace!

 

[John 1:1 NIV] 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Jesus = the Word = God

 

You should drink more "milk".

 

At least I accept the Trinity and didn't drink the Kool-aid.

 

"many" think like you do and "few" don't.

 

If one denies that Jesus is the Lord, same title given to God under the OT, then one cannot be saved!

 

Jesus is not God. He has God's Spirit inside Him, like I do.
God is not the author of confusion.