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The Temple and Temple Sacrifices to come in the Millennium

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Revmitchell, Aug 6, 2018.

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  1. Revmitchell

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    In the other thread now closed church mouse guy said

    Contrary to unfounded and unsubstantiated personal opinions that it will not be literally built, we can know from scripture that it will be built. Merrill Unger stated:

    "The temple itself would be located in the middle of this square [the holy oblation] (and not in the city of Jerusalem), upon a very high mountain, which will be miraculously made ready for that purpose when the temple is to be erected. This shall be "the mountain of Jehovah's house", established upon the the "top of the mountain" and "exalted above the hills,"into which all nations shall flow (Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:1-4; Ezekiel 37:26). Ezekiel gives the picture in chapter 37, verse 27: "My tabernacle also shall be with ["over" or "above"] them..." The prophet sees the magnificent structure on a grand elevation commanding a superb view of all the surrounding country."

    Merrill F. Unger, "The Temple Vision of Ezekiel," Bibliotheca Sacra, 105:428-429.

    Ezekiel goes on to describe, in great detail, the exact measurements, parts, furnishings, etc. ( 40:28-47; 40:47; 40:28-31; 40:32-37; and more)

    Further, no where does scripture say Jesus is the third temple. Jesus is described as a temple by Himself and we are described as having bodies that are temples. However, neither of these descriptions indicate that they are a replacement for the third Temple building. It can only be assumed by eisegesis.


    With regard to sacrifices in the Millennium Dwight Pentecost said that non-literalists make at least one "grave error" in both there observation and their conclusion.

    "The Kingdom expectation is based on the Abrahamic covenant, the Davidic covenant, and the Palestinic covenant, but is in no way based on the Mosaic covenant. It is insisted that the covenants will be fulfilled in the kingdom age. This does not, however, link the Mosaic covenant with the kingdom necessarily. It is therefore fallacious to reason that because on believes in the fulfillment of the determinative and non-eschatological in intent, but given rather to govern the life of the people in their relation to God in the old economy. One great stumbling block that hinders the acceptance of literal sacrifices in the millennium is removed by observing that, while there are many similarities between the Aaronic and millennium systems, there are also many differences between them that make it impossible that they should be equated."

    J Dwight Pentecost, "Things to Come", pgs. 518-519.
     
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    NOT!:

    19 …….. Let there be no fruit from thee henceforward for ever ….... Mt 21

    21 And a strong angel took up a stone as it were a great millstone and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with a mighty fall shall Babylon, the great city, be cast down, and shall be found no more at all.
    22 And the voice of harpers and minstrels and flute-players and trumpeters shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft, shall be found any more at all in thee; and the voice of a mill shall be heard no more at all in thee;
    23 and the light of a lamp shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the princes of the earth; for with thy sorcery were all the nations deceived.
    24 And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints, and of all that have been slain upon the earth. Rev 18 [Matthew 23:34-36]
     
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    That is private interpretation, with no support from the Apostles. Jesus & the Apostles show that the redeemed people of God comprise a living temple. An earthly temple has no place in the New Covenant worship -

    John 4:20 Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship. 21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. 23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

    Eph. 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; 20 and are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; 21 in whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: 22 in whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

    1 Peter 2: 4 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, andprecious, 5 ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.     ​
     
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    The problem here is you ignore the fact that not all of the OT promises have been fulfilled. Just because there is a new covenant with the church does not mean that the OT covenants are abandoned. Further you post scripture and make a claim about it but do nothing to show any reasoned support of it.
     
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    The reign of Christ here upon the earth is the Kingdom rstored again to national israel, under reign of the Jewish messiah, so they will observe and keep them in remembrance of Jesus, just as we do observe Communion!
     
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    I posted Scripture to show that the New Covenant temple is a living temple, built with believers in the Lord Jesus Christ. Prophecies relating to the temple in the Old Covenant Scriptures are interpreted by the Apostles in terms of living believers, never a physical building.

    Looking for unfulfilled prophecy in the OC Scriptures, particularly relating to Israel & a future millennium has no warrant in the NC Scripture.

    2 Peter 1:16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. 17 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. 18 And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount. 19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: 20 knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.​

    You have no Apostolic authority for your teaching. It's private interpretation.
     
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    Private interpretation.
     
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    None of the verses you posted never say "never a physical temple". Further, your use of 2 Peter 1:16 has no validation here. It is simply your claim without any support as is true of your claim that there is only a "living temple". Please provide evidence.
     
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