Featured Proof: You were only forgiven of your past sins!

All sins, past, present, and future were laid on the Lord when He died for the sins of the world.

Isaiah 53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. (KJV)

Hebrews 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down* on the right hand of the Majesty on high; (KJV)

Hebrews 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:
12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down* on the right hand of God; (KJV)

He paid for every sin that had been committed or that ever will be committed. When Christ died, all of our sins (yours and mine) were future sins. You are correct, however, that we must repent and seek the forgiveness of sins every day just as Jesus taught His disciples to do (Luke 11:4).



*sitting down was the indication that His work was completed.

 

perhaps they are unbelievers in the pews

As Pastor Bob says, All sin is covered by the Cross

 

I neither ignored nor rejected them. They are good verses and I believe exactly what they say. I was merely making a distinction between our sins being paid for on Calvary and the act of seeking forgiveness on a daily basis.

Of course that is my assumption. Is it your position that these passages do not support the fact that Jesus paid for our sins, past, present, and future on the Cross?

The verses you offered and the verses I offered do not contradict one another; at least in my opinion. There is no need to reconcile them.

The atonement is not a "pet doctrine," brother; it is a foundational doctrine.

Praise the Lord! May we all approach His Word with an open heart.

Forgive my ignorance, but I have no idea to what "BACs" refer.

I will say, if they are slaves to sin, they have chosen to be slaves to sin. Paul clearly tells us that we do not have to be slaves to sin.
Romans 6:11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
12 Let not [our choice] sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it [our choice] in the lusts thereof.
13 Neither yield ye [our choice] your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves [our choice] unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. (KJV)

I'll be the first to agree that there are saved people in our world today living just like lost people. They have grieved and quenched the Holy Spirit to the point that they have rendered Him inactive in their lives. They are not being led by the Spirit, nor are they walking in the Spirit. Consequently, they are living just like a lost man who has not the Spirit of God.

Again, I'm not sure what "BACs" are; but, if this individual was truly saved, they're still saved.

 

That fella in the op doesnt seem to understand the atonement.

 

Shew! The only BAC’s I know are blood alcohol content. I am a lab tech and from time to time I have to draw blood for the area police officers.

 

All the passages mentioned are true and faithful to the doctrine of forgiveness of sins.

None of the passages mentioned say ONLY past sins are forgiven.

Paul states, at various points, that a Christian has been saved, is being saved, and will be saved.

There are many passages that support the doctrine of security of the believer. Pastor Bob mentioned a few.

 

God freely declares us justified and reconciled to Him due to the fact that the blood of jesus atoned for all our sins!

 

Jhn 1:29

The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sinof the world

1Jo 2:2

And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

 

Which should include all of the sins of the elect of God!

 

Are you flabbergasted at Yeshua1 persistence in the error of the elect, or All sins are paid?

 

" Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life." ( John 5:24 )

Those that believe, have everlasting life.
They shall not come into condemnation ( eternal punishment ).

"And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
14 blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
15 [and] having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it." ( Colossians 2:13-14 )

" Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works." ( Titus 2:14 )

" For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified." ( Hebrews 10:14 )

All sins are forgiven.
All iniquity is redeemed by His blood.

His children are purified...not rinsed to become dirty again.



Do you know what imputed righteousness is, sir?

 

Yes, but not eternally:

" And Moses wrote all the words of the Lord, and rose up early in the morning, and builded an altar under the hill, and twelve pillars, according to the twelve tribes of Israel.
5 And he sent young men of the children of Israel, which offered burnt offerings, and sacrificed peace offerings of oxen unto the Lord.
6 And Moses took half of the blood, and put [it] in basons; and half of the blood he sprinkled on the altar.
7 And he took the book of the covenant, and read in the audience of the people: and they said, All that the Lord hath said will we do, and be obedient.
8 And Moses took the blood, and sprinkled [it] on the people, and said, Behold the blood of the covenant, which the Lord hath made with you concerning all these words." ( Exodus 24:4-8 )

The blood of the Old Testament was of bulls and goats...it was a picture of the Atonement that would later come through Christ on the cross.


" And it came to pass on the morrow, that Moses said unto the people, Ye have sinned a great sin: and now I will go up unto the LORD; peradventure I shall make an atonement for your sin." ( Exodus 32:30 )

God's chosen, earthly people are the nation of Israel.
Moses made atonement for their earthly sins under a covenant of Law.

No:

" For the law having a shadow of good things to come, [and] not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.
2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
3 But in those [sacrifices there is] a remembrance again [made] of sins every year.
4 For [it is] not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins." ( Hebrews 10:1-4 )

God's chosen, spiritual people are from every tongue, tribe and nation.
Christ made atonement for them by His own blood, which is far more precious than that of bulls and goats.

" Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him." ( Romans 5:9 )

" In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;" ( Ephesians 1:7 )

Unlike the blood of the animals under the Old covenant, where each individual sin is covered...under the New, all sins, past, present and future are covered.

The New is a perfect covenant with a perfect sacrifice.

They were not eternally saved, for the most part, so there was no eternal life to be lost.

" For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard [it]." ( Hebrews 10:4 )

Moses was, Aaron was, Miriam was, and Joshua and Caleb were, among others.

Paul never told anyone that their gift of eternal life could be forfeited.
I do, however, know where you get your conclusions from.

The error is in treating spiritual Israel like earthly Israel, in that, when God blesses under the Law, it is in accord with obedience.
If He curses under the Law, it is in accord with disobedience.

Under the New Testament in Christ's blood, His people are blessed whether or not they obey, because God the Father looks upon them out of Christ's perfect obedience, not their own failing efforts... imputed righteousness without ( outside ) the Law, not their own righteousness under the Law.

He keeps them by His power ( 1 Peter 1:5 ), not their own.
They are beloved, and they are chastised if they do not obey, if only to remind them of what they are saved from....eternal punishment in the Lake of Fire.
Yet, deep down ( under their filthy, sinful flesh ), they really want to obey, because they do so out of a changed nature...which was not present in the majority of the earthly nation of Israel.

They are two entirely different covenants...
Yet, the first is a picture of the second.

One is a covenant of Law with earthly consequences, and one is a covenant of grace with eternal consequences.




In both cases, God out-right chose His people through no effort of their own.

 

You will not see the truth if you are unwilling to see the truth.