Transubstantiation!!

Such mending and reconciliation is found only when we return to Cross which was done once for ALL, (not only for your time of salvation but also for your life thru !)

You would not find any new Reconciliation but the only one - Crucifixion of Jesus.

This is why you have to search for many things.
But for me, Jesus and His Crucifixion is everything and Jesus is ALL to me.

Have you ever prayed until you get the Answer from God, when you ask God the forgiveness of your sins? What was His answer?

 

His answer is Yes and He told me to tell you stop doubting His ability to do as He promises.

 

I am waiting for his own answer.

What you have to do is to verify whether you get the forgiveness at the time of Eucharist.

Were your sins not forgiven completely at the Cross?
Have you not ever believed this truth ?

YOu may be believing in hte INCOMPLETE Forgiveness !

This is what you have to worry about !

 

I have no worries, I receive all of His forgiveness everytime, not in little pieces.

Why do I need to verify it? It's God's promises, His work, if He doesn't follow through it would make Him a liar but, God is no liar. So again, I have no worries.

 

That is the typical confession by the people who have never experienced the True Salvation ONCE FOR ALL !

Do you get the salvation everytime ? How was it ?

 

You know, I am sick of your questioning people's salvation.

So if I had experienced True Salvation Once FOR ALL by your means I would be living in continual doubt and worry?

I will not apologize for not basing my salvation on an empty emotional experience over the promises God. And He has promised to connect us to the salvation won on the cross through the means of Baptism, Communion, and the Word.

 

but you are relying on the Works like Baptism, Communion. That'swhy you are saying the Incomplete Forgiveness at the Cross as one who needs to get the forgiveness every week by the Eucharist.

Any emotional experience is not the core of the salvation at all. It may follow the belief, but the core of the salvation is the invisible relationship with God. It is very much spiritual in depth.

For example, when Martin Luther realized about Romans 1:17, don't you think he had never read that part of Bible before? Holy Spirit comes with the Words. If anyone doesn't have the personal relationship with God, even though he or she knows much theory on Bible, that person is not saved.
(personal innuendo removed)

[ February 15, 2006, 01:47 AM: Message edited by: DHK ]

 

I have asked and I have asked that you quit questioning the salvation of me and others, I ask no longer. I am reporting your last post.

 

BTW since you keep throwing around Luther as if you knew what you are talking about, maybe you should read what he has actually written concerning various things such as Baptism and the Lord's Supper.

On Baptism

On the Lord's Supper

 

1)Is it wrong if a believer ask about the salvation of others?

2) Is it wrong if the believer comments on whether such person is holding on the wrong belief about the salvation ?

3) Read the followings:

2 Cor 13:5
Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?


Phil 4:3
intreat thee also, true yokefellow, help those women which laboured with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and with other my fellowlabourers, whose names are in the book of life.

1 John 2:19
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.


Gal 4: 16
Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth ?

 

ASK not Accuse!

 

Why am I not surprised that you completely missed Luther's point. You seemed to be very good at yanking phrases out of context and twisting their meaning. Luther states from the beginning it is not a work of man, it is a work of God.

Why do you insist on basing theological principles on extrabiblical sources such as your experiences? Why should I put my trust in something as ephemeral as my flawed experiences and recollections?

It is no wonder that Satan was able to trick you into doubting God's promises for you and thereby drive you to the brink of destruction.

 

Chemnitz,

You hit the nail on the head.

So much of fundamentalist theology is based on extra-biblical sources. What is even more dangerous is the fact that the extra-biblical basis results in non-biblical theology.

So many of the posters here rely on flawed Biblical exegesis and rely instead on recent thinking that cannot be squared with God's promises, Scriptural norms and apostolic practice. When we take recent sociological, historical and personal thinking and project it backwards 2,000 years and then search for Scripture to support it, we can arrive at very flawed conclusions. However, if we take Scripture at its word and apostolic and early Church practice as the norm, we will more often arrive at the truth.


Alexander

 

Exactly.

Re sola scriptura churches not having Tradition, well any fule kno that they do have their own Tradition, much of extra-Bibllcal or based on faulty exegesis outwith the mind of Christ's Church. I know that in my dealings with fundie Baptists here and elsewhere for example that despite their assertions that they are SS and practise 'soul liberty', you try exercising that soul liberty by trying to preach a sermon on baptismal regeneration in a Baptist church ( based on your interpretation of Scripture) and you will discover very quickly that they jolly well do have a Tradition!

 

Jude 3-4:" Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for THE FAITH which was once(FOR ALL) delivered unto the saints. For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turing the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ." Emphasis and parenthetical mine.

The "traditions" of men are the problem, not "keeping the faith". Jesus put it like this: "In vain ye do worship, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men." He was talking to the religious leaders--Scribes, Pharisees, High Priests, and other Right Reverend Doctors, who were blocking the gates of heaven with their false teachings.

Selah,

Bro. James

 

But what if Tradition is the way of 'keeping the faith'? I'm not talking about the pharasaical traditions of men but the Tradition of the Church, the "pillar and foundation of the Truth" (I Tim 3:15). There are of course plenty of 'traditions of men' around - see my last post for an example.

 

For every truth there is a pseudo. The tradition to which you seem to refer comes from the Philosophy of Aristotle and the Hiearchy of the Roman Empire, through the tradition of man called: Pontifex Maximus.

These traditions cannot be found in scripture except for some Apocryphal writings, which are no scripture at all. This is why the "powers that be" did not want the scripture translated into the common vernacular. The doctrines of men are exposed for exactly what they are: false teachings from the father of lies.

This is also why sola scriptura is not a popular notion with the holy see, nor her daughters.

"Let God be true, and every man a liar."

Selah,

Bro. James

 

According to your opinion. Aristotelianism was only imported - unilaterally - into the medieval Catholic Church by the scholastics and Luther rightly rejected its consequences