Calvin vs Charlie

1Jo 2:2

And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

 

we are condemned already

Jhn 3:18

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He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

 

You realize I have also quoted multiple sources that directly contradict what you are saying right?

 

Right, the sins of both Jews and Gentiles.

 

Scripture cannot contradict itself, neither the character of God, where is the mistake?
Act 10:34

Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:

 

I was talking about your Calvin accusations.

 

You do not understand irresistible grace at all.

 

I was talking about the how election is not scriptural

 

Have you read the book of Romans? How about the Gospel of John? Election is not a disputable doctrine.

 

You misapply scripture, He was speaking to those already saved who are called to a particular service.
Election (how it is applied for salvation ) is ignorant and a lie of the devil.
It impugns God

 

You don't even know how I have applied the Scripture, I simply asked if you have read Romans and John. Election is not disputable. If you dispute election totally you are a false teacher.

 

Paul before Christ was called Saul and murdering Christians for there belief was his priestly duty By the way Paul is responsible for more than half of the new testament being written. Do you think we should believe him?.
I'm not a Calvinist nor am I a reformer but I believe in what Paul wrote do you think I'm going down the wrong path?.

MB

 

election for salvation calls God a liar,
"Behold I stand at the door and knock" proves unconditional election false

 

One verse taken out of context proves nothing.

 

not out of context ,
you need to study more

2 Peter :The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is long-suffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

ITimothy 2: Who will have all men to be saved, and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Romans 2:
Tribulation and anguish, on every soul of man that does evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; 10 But glory, honor, and peace, to every man that works good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: 11 For there is no respect of persons with God.

He tells us not to show favoritism James 2 :9

But if you have respect to persons, you commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.

election is pure favoritism,

Has anyone of the non elect believe this doctrine? no ,only the egos of the self reported "elect" that deem themselves to be a favorite of God instead of a sinner needing salvation.

 

If you read with understanding you would not reach these false conclusions .
Election is a great blessing to Believers traveling through this fallen world.

 

Who chose who? Did you chose Christ first or did Christ chose your door to knock on first.
MB

 

Even more verses taken out of context.

And believing the biblical doctrine of election does not cause os to show favoritism. How do you come to that conclusion?

 

Grace is for all, Sin has all been paid ,faith is a gift that one has to exercise.

God chose to saved the condemned and set about redemption through the humanity shared with Christ.
He provide the means and method , we have to believe He is able, willing and capable of saving us

The only reason of creation is redemption

 

are you serious,? if God favors one (elect) and not another (non elect )that is favoritism. He said NO