Looking for info: Partial Preterism

Unless you are a Mormon, of course . Thanks, I hadn't even considered that passage from Acts. The Gospel was definitely spread throughout the Roman Empire - the "world" of these first century Christians.

 

14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world for a testimony unto all the nations; and then shall the end come.
34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all these things be accomplished. Mt 24

So belief cometh of hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ. But I say, Did they not hear? Yea, verily, Their sound went out into all the earth, And their words unto the ends of the world. Ro 10:17-18

5 because of the hope which is laid up for you in the heavens, whereof ye heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel,
6 which is come unto you; even as it is also in all the world bearing fruit and increasing, as it doth in you also, since the day ye heard and knew the grace of God in truth;
23 if so be that ye continue in the faith, grounded and stedfast, and not moved away from the hope of the gospel which ye heard, which was preached in all creation under heaven; whereof I Paul was made a minister. Col 1

25 Now to him that is able to establish you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery which hath been kept in silence through times eternal,
26 but now is manifested, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the eternal God, is made known unto all the nations unto obedience of faith: Ro 16

Imagine this:

11 so shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it. Isa 55

 

But they didn't see it. It didn't happen then.

That was the "days of vengeance" Jesus proclaimed against the Jews for all the murders of the righteous, from Abel onwards, up til that time.

 

No, "this generation" hasn't yet come, unless it's this one. The great trib has NOT yet happened. Jesus said it'd be the worse set of disasters in history, and, since 70 AD, there have been many worse disasters than the Romans' destroying Jerusalem. Speaking strictly of the Jews, both Hadrian's expulsion of them from their land & the nazi holocaust were much-worse.

And again, "this generation" hasn't come yet unless it's this one.

And the days of vengeance were accomplished. A coupla generations later, the Jews rebelled again, & Hadrian, the Caesar at the time, expelled them from their land & gave it to the Philistines. Proof: "Palestinian" is Latin for "Philistine". Just ask any Latin scholar pr professor. Today's Palestinians are largely descended from the Philistines, Israel's old enemy.

Once again, a preterist is left holding his hat as his guesswork is proven wrong again.

 

Sir, in this case, Jesus meant He is physically returning, from the sky, as He departed. Remember, He will be SEEN by every eye.(Rev. 1:7)

 

We hold those views because they're the PROVEN TRUTH. Calminian, John of Japan, and I have presented FACTS, not imagination and/or guesswork.

OF COURSE I won't let the TRUTH go!

I'm sure Gorship now realizes most of us Baptists do NOT believe that false doctrine, and if you REALLY understood it best, you'd drop it because you'd realize it's FALSE.

 

I would see more than the PP view tends to see it more in the reformed presby wing, as even Dr RC Sproul held to it in the end. Majority of Baptists tend to be Pre trib pre mil, and among Reformed Baptists, think historical premil as I now hold with is held more so then the PP viewpoint!

 

Yes, they do. But while you CLAIM to believe both, we hafta wonder how you can FULLY believe them & still believe preterism.

Again & again, I will remind you that Jesus proves partial preterism wrong in Matt. 24:29-30.

 

Yes. Why? Because immediately after, Jesus will return.

 

Believe that the main proponent of PP was by Rusell, and look at the Last Days according to Jesus by DR RC Sproul for that!

 

Nor had China, Japan, Australia, etc.

 

No, I never said a word about oikumene. You, OTH, proclaimed kosmos as a worldwide indicator, then immediately took it back when you realized it didn't fit with your scheme.

You can't blame me for the one. The fact is kosmos does refer to the entire world. You can deny it all you want, but you know deep inside it's true. You also know, deep in inside (though you're trying to suppress it), that Jesus returns immediately after the tribulation, because Jesus himself said it. There is no gap between Rev. 18 and 19.

 

The Gospel then went out into all the parts of the world KNOWN TO THE APOSTLES.

And, if the Gospel had then been preached to the WHOLE WORLD, how come Jesus hasn't yet returned??????????????

 

it's definitely becoming the majority among conservative Christians. The reason is probably the clues that unfolding in history. Those his had adherents before 1948, the regathering of Israel in the these last days have opened some eyes, as has the formation of the European Union, and other super signs.

 

I still hold firmly with premil, but pre trib, not so much now.

 

What changed you from pretrib? To what do you hold now?

 

Either Mid trib, as can see the 2 witnesses as being types of the Church, or else post trib, as God preserved Israel during Plagues in Egypt can keep us!

 

You holds those views because you are convinced by the "proofs" that you believe to be true; likewise, Preterists hold our views because we are convinced by the proofs and facts that we see. If there is any imagination or guesswork, it's from the Futurist view.

 

I claim to believe the Bible to be 100% true and inerrant. I believe the prophecies of the Olivet Discourse were fulfilled in exact detail according to Scripture.