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Ten Commandments Twice Removed Book

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Brian30755, Apr 30, 2006.

  1. Brian30755

    Brian30755 New Member

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    Found this book hanging on my front door this morning: "Ten Commandments Twice Removed" by Danny Shelton and Shelley Quinn.

    I'm on my way to church right now, so obviously I haven't had a chance to read it, but just flipping through it I can't help but think there is some hidden agenda in it. Something about observing Saturday as your Sabbath, perhaps?

    Anybody know anything about this book, or who's behind it?
     
  2. Claudia_T

    Claudia_T New Member

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    It was probably some Elves who put it there. Or Night Fairys or something.
     
  3. gekko

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    saturday is the last day of the week.

    there's four verses in exodus 20 explaining when the sabbath is.

    so keep it holy on the last day of the week.
     
  4. Brian30755

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    Thanks, but I was actually being serious. Just wondering if anybody was familiar with this book.
     
  5. Kamoroso

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    It is a Seventh Day Adventist book. The SDA church believes that the ten commandments day which is coming up, is a good time to share the truth of all the ten commandments with everyone that it can. Thus it is sharing this book, and others with as many people as possible. Since so many may not even realize, that they are neglecting one of God's commadmnets. If they are RC, then two of God's ten commandments.

    Bye for now. Y. b. in C. Keith
     
  6. nate

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    Where in the NT can I find this law given Kamoroso?
     
  7. Claudia_T

    Claudia_T New Member

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    nate,

    if you have a desktop Bible type in the word "commandments"
     
  8. Brian30755

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    Thanks, Kamoroso.
     
  9. Kamoroso

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    The ten commandments were given in the OT. They are unlike anything else in this world. They were spoken by the mouth of God Himself, and written with HIs very own finger. After this, Christ came to establish the new covenant, thus the NT. He was unlike anything of this world. He obeyed these ten commandments perfectly, in our fallen natures. He fulfilled the righteousness of the law, and then He fulfilled the demands of the law concerning our sinful natures, and flesh. Thus He is our Savior, and perfect example in all things.

    When we are in Him by faith, the demands of the law are met, and we are justified, since we may die in HIm by faith. When He is in us, the demands of the law are met, for He alone has lived a perfectly righteous life in our sinful nature and flesh. By His righteousness we are sanctified.

    The law was given in the OT, but it was fulfilled by Him who established the new covenant. The law was not done away by HIm, but rather established in the flesh, our flesh. Though the law was given in the OT, it is referred to repeatedly in the NT. Observe the following.

    Rom 2:13-15 13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
    14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
    15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;)

    Rom 3:31 31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

    Rom 7:14 14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

    Rom 8:3-4 3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
    4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
    The law is spiritual. Those who walk in the spirit, have the righteousness of the law fulfilled within them. This is not in order to be saved, but rather because they have already been saved by faith in Christ.

    Rom 13:8 8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
    Love is the fulfillment of the law. You cannot fulfill a law that no longer exists.

    Rom 13:10 10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

    Gal 5:14-18 14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
    15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.
    16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
    17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
    18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

    Those who walk in the spirit, are not under the law. This is because, as has already been pointed out, the law is spiritual. Those who are walking in the spirit have the law fulfilled within them, instead of the works of the flesh, or carnal nature. If you are in Christ, by faith, then you have died with Him. If you have died with Him, then the penalty of the law is no longer over you, for the penalty is death, and you have already died in Christ. This having been accomplished by Christ's death on the cross, and your faith in that act, you now walk in newness of life. It is no longer you, but Christ that lives in you. This is the fulfillment of the law within the heart. Paul explains this very clearly in the next verses.

    CHAPTER 6
    1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
    2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
    3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
    4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
    5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
    6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
    7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
    8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
    9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
    10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
    11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
    12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
    13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
    14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
    15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
    16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?


    PRAISE GOD! we have been freed from the penalty of sin, which is death, and given the power from God to live a life of righteousness, that is the righteousness of the Lord Jesus Christ.

    James 1:25 25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

    Matt 5:17-19 17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
    18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
    19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

    Matt 19:17 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

    Matt 22:37-40 37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
    38 This is the first and great commandment.
    39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
    40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

    John 14:15 15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

    John 14:21 21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

    John 15:10-11 10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
    11 These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full.

    1 Cor 7:19 19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.

    I Jn 2:3-4 3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
    4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

    I Jn 3:22-24 22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
    23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
    24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

    I Jn 5:2-3 2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
    3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

    II Jn 1:5-6 5 And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another.
    6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.

    Rev 12:17 17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

    Rev 14:12 12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

    Rev 22:14 14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.


    Bye for now. Y. b. in C. Keith
     
  10. nate

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    You have posted a lot of verses defending the "commandments" but this still bring up the question---all 10 Commandments are mentioned by name in the NT except "remember to keep the Sabbath holy".
    In Christ,
    Nate
     
  11. BobRyan

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    Sure - watch this short 16 min youtube video - where a Baptist Pastor that has read it more than 5 times - very carefully explains the summary of it in a sermon.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO8kVXUQ3ZU

    in Christ,

    Bob
     
  12. Yeshua1

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    Better yet, would be to read the scriptures ALONE, not also the prophetess, to see Christians not under th OT Sabbath now!
     
  13. BobRyan

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    You can stop yourself from seeing the Baptist minister's sermon -

    But can you really stop yourself from reading Rev 14:12?

    From reading 1Cor 7:19??

    From reading Isaiah 66:23?

    From reading Mark 2:27?

    From reading Mark 7:6-12??

    From reading 1John 5:2-4?

    From reading John 14:15?

    Surely turning a blind eye to all of it - is not the all compelling solution that many have imagined.

    in Christ,

    Bob
     
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