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Missional Communities

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  1. Salty

    Salty 20,000 Posts Club
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    I found this on a "church" webpage

    the orchard is a non-denominational, independent Christian community. This means that the orchard is led from within and not directed by a denominational office or headquarters. For more info on our basic beliefs click here.

    An orchard is a living thing, one thing made up of many.

    For us in the orchard, much of the New Testament reads as a record of the sense of community, service, sacrifice, love, and hope that can come out of small groups of people who are committed to each other and to following Jesus.

    the orchard is centered on what some might call missional communities, we simply call them churches.


    --- Open for discussion

    For the orchard, small churches (or missional communities) are the primary way we connect with others and live out following Jesus. These smaller groups of people (10-20) provide an opportunity to know others and be known within the orchard. Through these relationships, we mutually challenge and encourage one another to believe who we are in Christ and live life in an intentional way that shows the world who God truly is.

    Each church is unique within the larger community and meets regularly to eat, learn, pray, have fun, and to live out the Gospel in real and tangible expressions.

    Whether you consider yourself part of the orchard—or if you’re just checking it out—it is our desire that everyone would be an active member in one of these communities that spur us on in faith, love, and hope.

    As the orchard grows there will be many churches meeting in a variety of locations (like homes, cafes, and many places that we haven’t thought of yet!) across Central New York. These churches will take time out to gather together on a regular basis, but these large group gatherings are simply not the focus of the orchard.

    Why is the orchard set up like this?

    We believe that real change doesn’t happen by sitting in rows listening to a teaching on a topic. Real life change happens by experiencing life with others who are working out how to follow Jesus too. It’s as simple as that, we aren’t re-creating the wheel, we’re looking back to the first Christians for our cues.
     
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    Why is it with groups like this you get a lot of pious platitudes, but no clear doctrinal statement?

    My first thought on seeing "Orchard" was to think of a group of trees, which also happened to be similar to Victor Paul Wierwille's imagery for his The Way International cult (with trees, roots, branches, and home church groups called twigs = The Way International Groups). So this group's theological fluff statements makes me wonder, since that was the same method The Way used to attract young people and college students.
     
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    Their doctrine statement????

    Biblical Priorities
    We recognize the Bible as the final authority for our lives because God has spoken to us through it.

    2 Timothy 3:16-17, Matthew 24:35, Psalm 18:30
    Are your priorities consistent with Scripture?

    Relationship With God
    Our lives are rooted in our relationship with God.

    Deut. 6:4-9, Matthew 22:37-40, John 14:6, 1 Peter 1:3-5
    How is your relationship with God?

    Loving Others
    We actively share the love and hope of Jesus through serving others

    1 John 3:18, Matthew 25:31-46, John 13:1-17
    Where/who are you serving?

    Integrity
    We live with integrity because with it nothing else matters.
    We live with integrity because without it nothing else matters.

    Romans 12:9, Proverbs 2:6-9, Titus 2:7-8
    Have you been living what you say you believe?

    Apprentices
    We intentionally pass along to others the knowledge,
    skills, and opportunities that have been entrusted to us.

    Matthew 28:18-20, Hebrews 10:23-25, John 15:5-8
    Who are you investing in?

    Fun
    We will laugh often, celebrate well, and live to the fullest.

    Acts 2:44-47, Ecclesiastes 8:15
    When was
     
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    Hardly a definitive statement on any key issues. Most cults could state all of the above and fool the unwary.

    How about getting a clear statement from them on the Trinity? Or whether Jesus is actually God incarnate, the second person of such? Whether they hold to annihilationism or a literal hell, etc.? I know the Wierwille cult specifically holds to the view of one of his primary textbooks, "Jesus is not God" and replaces Orthodox doctrine on that point with an Arian view.

    Whether the Orchard group is one of the spin-offs that exist after Wierwille died, I don't know — but it would be nice to see some *clear * doctrinal statements from them rather than feel good happy talk.
     
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    I am trying to contact them - we'll see what happens
     
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