Featured Should Christians Pray for the Lost?

I know for a fact that my parents prayed for my Salvation. I also know the Lord answered those prayers. Praise God
MB

 

Well then you should own that then

 

The historical Calvinists admit flaws with the doctrine. It is very recently that Calvinists have decided their doctrine is perfect.

 

There are flaws with any doctrine.

 

You guys should really stop saying this. Just because we disagree doesn't mean we don't understand. We full well understand your positions.

 

Correct. When flaws are pointed out in Calvinism, the New Calvinists dismiss it as ignorance on the part of the one making the observation.

 

Of course we pray that God might elect to save all the world. It is foolish not to ask.
Now...will God choose to save those who I ask Him to save?
Only God knows. I don't presume upon God that my plans for someone's salvation are God's plan.
The prayer of a righteous man availeth much, but not necessarily for the salvation of those who are dead in their sins. Prayer changes the mindset of the prayer rather than changing the mindset of the prayee. God doesn't change. We change. We receive the mind of Christ.

 

I wouldn’t know. All I know is only God is perfect and everyone misses the mark.

Imagine Christ stooping in the dirt and writing. Scripture does not tell us what He wrote but after the crowd saw the words in the dirt and hearing Him say, you who have not sinned you may throw the first rock, they dispersed.

I need to say this, we need to follow our Saviors lead.

 

Pray for any and all to have God reveal the Lord Jesus to them in a saving way, as he knows those who are His, while we do not!

 

ok now you are delineating Calvinists from New Calvinists. Was that displayed in ITL’s message?

 

Old school and new school Calvinists have no love lost between them!

 

Hmmm, I would not know

 

I readily admit that when Calvinists are backed into a logical corner they will lash out and say, "you don't understand Calvinism".

 

As a Calvinist, do you really think your prayer to save someone will influence who God ordained as elect before the foundations of the world? You are going to change Gods mind? The other position you could take would be the foreknowledge of your prayer, but good Calvinists reject foreknowledge. This sounds like 2+2=6.26.

 

And whatever you ask in My name, that I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
If you ask anything in My name, I will do it. John 14:13-14

 

Maybe you haven’t met enough then

 

Enough to know it is a common tactic.

 

[#2 or #3, incoming!]

 

Or perhaps it is a reality. Do you really feel you have got a full understanding of it or do you just they are just using bs to blow you off? Perhaps the categories should be modified to Monergist/ Synergist... at least then I could relate to it better.

Let’s change the focus a bit ... do you consider there to be different categories of sin (example, a guy who eats too much all the time) Vs a character who cheats on his wife.