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Featured Is the Angel of the Lord in the OT Jesus?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Jedi Knight, Jun 10, 2020.

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  1. Jedi Knight

    Jedi Knight Well-Known Member
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    Many time the Angel of the Lord appears to the OT Saints.....do you believe this is Jesus?
     
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    In some passages yes, in others no. And of course "Jesus" before the incarnation refers to the Second Person of the Trinity, the "Logos."
     
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    I am going to have to look them up again.
     
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    There are times when “The Angel” of the Lord accepts worship from people as with Joshua. Other angels do not.

    That might give us a clue if it’s God, the Eternal Son, or not.

    peace to you
     
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    Yes, as he assumes the name and take son the attrubutes of God Himself, so see Him as a preincarnate God the Son!
     
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    The Angel of the Lord seems to be always God appearing to them!
     
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    One example The Angel of the Lord appeared to Moses from the burning bush and later Jesus said before Abraham was born I AM which is what Moses was told when he asked who sent me.
     
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    Angels conveying messages, like at the Tomb, do not seem to be God.
     
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    Sometimes. You have to look at context. Cant build doctrine on an article that is rendered differently in many translations.
     
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    Another strong reference..... Then Gideon perceived that it was the angel of the LORD; and Gideon said, "Help me, Lord GOD! For I have seen the angel of the LORD face to face." But the LORD said to him, "Peace be to you; do not fear, you shall not die" (Judges 6:22).
     
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    Why do you think it matters?

    How does believing one or the other change one’s behavior?
     
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    Why does 90% of what is discussed on here matter. He wants to discuss it. Its an interesting topic. Why not discuss it.
     
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    I taught this in a Sunday school class once and I could see the eyes of the class widen as I did. Its personally one of my favorite topics. I treat it like a CSI investigation and ask Why did the Jews want to stone Him to death when he said before Abraham was born I AM? Was He?
     
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    OT Angel of the Lord was always Preincarnate Christ!
     
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    How would you know, since study teaches the opposite.
     
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    What time was THE Angel of the Lord in the OT NOT preincarnated appearance of Christ then?
     
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    How many references would result in your posting that your view was nonsense?
    In Judges 6:21-23 the Angel of the LORD disappeared, yet Gideon kept talking to Yahweh.
     
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    I tend to discuss things that matter. If you tend to discuss things that don't matter I'll leave you to your opinion.

    Just wanting to know if I needed to spend time figuring out the answer. I don't, so I'll move on.
     
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    That was Yahweh in form of the Angel to Gideon!
     
    #19 Yeshua1, Jun 13, 2020
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    Lol....don't know how the discussion will survive without you...
     
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