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I am going to consider the spiritual nature of the kingdom of God.

What was the nature of the Son, the appointed heir of God Heb 1:1,2 born of woman Gal 4:4 ? Was it flesh 1 John 4:2,3? Was he flesh and blood Heb 2:14?

Did the inheritance of the kingdom of God apply to the heir of God? To date how many born of woman have inherited the kingdom of God.

but that which is spiritual is not first, but that which was natural, afterwards that which is spiritual. 1 Cor 15:46

knowing that Christ, having been raised up out of the dead, doth no more die, death over him hath no more lordship; Rom 6:9
'And that He did raise him up out of the dead, no more to return to corruption, he hath said thus -- I will give to you the faithful kindnesses of David; wherefore also in another place he saith, Thou shalt not give Thy kind One to see corruption, Acts 13:34,35

How many, born of woman, have been raised out of the dead, to die no more and not to return to corruption?

Consider:

and in fashion having been found as a man, he humbled himself, having become obedient unto death -- death even of a cross, wherefore, also, God did highly exalt him, and gave to him a name that is above every name, Phil 2:8,9

How did God, highly exalt, this one who had obediently died? ?AND gave to him a name?

Heb 1:4 having become so much better than the messengers, as he did inherit a more excellent name than they.

When did the appointed heir of Verse 2 inherit ie be given a more excellent name, above every name.

Did that have anything to do with the resurrection out of the dead?

Acts 13:33 God hath in full completed this to us their children, having raised up Jesus, as also in the second Psalm it hath been written, My Son thou art -- I to-day have begotten thee.
Heb 1:5 For to which of the messengers said He ever, 'My Son thou art -- I to-day have begotten thee?' and again, 'I will be to him for a father, and he shall be to Me for a son?'

Matthew 1:18 And of Jesus Christ, the birth was thus: For his mother Mary having been betrothed to Joseph, before their coming together she was found to have conceived from the Holy Spirit,
Matt 1:23-25 'Lo, the virgin shall conceive, and she shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel,' which is, being interpreted 'With us he is God.' And Joseph, having risen from the sleep, did as the messenger of the Lord directed him, and received his wife, and did not know her till she brought forth her son -- the first-born, and he called his name Jesus.
1 John 5:6 This one is he who did come through water and blood -- Jesus the Christ, not in the water only, but in the water and the blood; and the Spirit it is that is testifying, because the Spirit is the truth,

 

Where did the Pharisees invent the Millennium? That is wild. Even if it were true, you have not shown how John picked it up and put it in the Book of the Revelation.

Nor have you identified the empire that symbolized by the feet of the statue that had a mixture of iron and clay. Who was it, 1689?

You glorify Rome for razing Jerusalem, conducting the siege at Masada, enslaving the Jews, changing the name of Israel to Palestine referencing the Philistines, and executing the diaspora. Rome was a forerunner of Germany but you glorify Rome, which God reduced to a pile of pestilent rubble. No wonder your eschatology is not very popular.

 

Mouse, that was the Roman Empire that collapsed into ten weaker kingdoms from whence the Papal Antichrist began ruling the world. Study it and see for yourself.

That by a fourth, strong as iron, breaking in pieces all these, and represented by the legs of iron. This last to be divided into ten inferior kingdoms, represented by the iron and clay of the ten toes, partly strong and partly weak, as iron and clay, not mingling and mixing together. In the days of which kings God would set up a kingdom, represented by the little stone,1 which would break all these kingdoms into pieces, and which would never be destroyed, but last forever.
JAMES STACY, D. D. (n.d.). Hand-book of Prophecy.

 

Okay, name the ten weaker kingdoms right after the collapse of the Roman Empire. You can't. There was a long dark age or medieval period. Nice try.

 

God's plan is perfect and right on schedule. These last 100-120 years have seen countless events occur that formulate the circumstances for both the coming Gog-Magog alliance and war as well as the Antichrist brief kingdom that shall likely emerge as a result of the supernatural crushing of the Gog-Magog alliance.

The Gog-Magog alliance and the Antichrist's brief kingdom have two completely different approaches. The Gog-Magog alliance lusts to physically destroy Jacob. The Antichrist's kingdom lusts to spiritually and physically destroy Jacob. The Antichrist desires for Jacob to build the Temple, the Gog-Magog alliance does not.

Both the Gog-Magog war and the Antichrist's brief kingdom are loaded with visibly supernatural activity.

 

Revelation 20:1-10, ". . . And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prisoon, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. . . ."
Revelation 22:18-19, ". . . For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: [ And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the tree of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. . . ."

 

The 1000 years are the symbol for the complete binding of Satan by the Church preaching the gospel to the NATIONS. As it says. When the 1000 years end, Satan attacks the kingdom. So they are not the "millennial Kingdom" Jesus refuted any millennial kingdom when he said only the born-again could see the kingdom he preached.

 

the ten toes of the previous vision, representing the ten kingdoms into which that empire was afterwards divided, and were, as usually understood, the Ostrogoths, Visigoths, Sueves and Allans, Vandals, Franks, Burgundians, Heruli, Saxons and Angles, Huns, and Lombards. The little horn to arise in their midst, the Papacy, as we will afterwards see, the three horns or kingdoms plucked up by it, the Heruli, Lombards, and Ostrogoths; the time of continuance, three and a half years; that is, 1,260 days, or 1,260 years; a day for a year, according to prophetic count.
JAMES STACY, D. D. (n.d.). Hand-book of Prophecy.

 

Please state your point.

 

Study the Bible. If you say Jesus did not set-up the kingdom, you reject Him and his gospel of the kingdom. You also endorse Phariseeim from whence millennialism came. Did God blind them so they could not understand scripture? Then why follow them over the cliff?

 

Those are just a bunch of people groups who are hardly remembered now. The Saxons were riff-raff. The Huns were oriental raiders. The Vandals were just what their name says that they were and they were just a tribe. These groups were not clay and iron because they had little iron, not half and half. Nice try.

 

You mean that if I don't agree with you, don't you?

 

You deny Christ and side with the Pharisees in matters of Daniel and his prophecy. You say the past hasn't happened yet.

 

You cannot change history, only deny it to your folly.

 

Yet again, you present only a part of the case concerning the nature of the kingdom. There are 2 aspects to the kingdom: a physical and a spiritual one, and the one does not disannul the other.

 

The Kingdom of God and Kingdom of Heaven are the same exact thing.
“the kingdom of Heaven is at hand” (Matt. 4:17) = “the kingdom of God is at hand” (Mark 1:15)

“Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of Heaven” (Matt. 5:3) = “Blessed are the poor, for yours is the kingdom of God” (Luke 6:20)

“Among those born of women there has not risen a greater than John the Baptist, notwithstanding he who is least in the kingdom of Heaven is greater than him.” (Matt. 11:11) = “Among those born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist, but he who is least in the kingdom of God is greater than him.” (Luke 7:28)

“the mysteries of the kingdom of Heaven” (Matt. 13:11) = “the mysteries of the kingdom of God” (Mark 4:11 cp. Luke 8:10)

“the kingdom of Heaven is like a grain of mustard seed” (Matt 13:31) = “the kingdom of God...is like a grain of mustard seed” (Mark 4:30-31 cp. Luke 13:18-19)

“The kingdom of Heaven is like leaven” (Matt. 13:33) = “the kingdom of God...is like leaven” (Luke 13:20)

“Except you be converted, and become as little children, you shall not enter into the kingdom of Heaven” (Matt. 18:3-4) = “Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein” (Mark 10:15)

“Allow little children, and do not forbid them to come to me, for of such is the kingdom of Heaven.” (Matt. 19:14) = “Allow the little children to come to me, and do not forbid them, for of such is the kingdom of God.” (Mark 10:14 cp. Luke 18:16)

“a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of Heaven” (Matt. 19:23) = “How hardly shall they who have riches enter into the kingdom of God!” (Luke 18:24)

In other words, “kingdom of God” = “kingdom of Heaven.”

 

You mean that I have to agree with you, don't you?

I am telling the truth about the Saxons, Vandals, and Huns--you are making it out to be better than it was. The Huns had a temporary nation but the Vandals were just a tribe and the Saxon tribe got kicked out of Germany and floated on rafts with their cows to England and lived in stick houses.

 

You need to agree with the Bible. The creeds do and they condemn premillennialism as heresy.

 

No one denies that there is one overall kingdom. In fact, I have my table of the kingdoms harmonizing and I have presented it to you in the past. Here:




But you can't ignore where they differ. Here:



Heresy arises the moment we ignore either of the aspects of the kingdom. It's one kingdom but with two aspects: a spiritual and a physical aspect.
What you've done, is follow Catholic Rome which followed Augustine, who followed Origen, who followed Plato who made kingdom-truth exclusively spiritual - in good gnostic Hindu fashion.