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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by robustheologian, Jan 14, 2021.

  1. MB

    MB Well-Known Member

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    There is a huge difference between curiosity and argument
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    And how does this concern me?
     
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    Are you asking out of curiosity or are you being argumentative? :Biggrin
     
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    You should know the answer to that right now.:Rolleyes
     
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    What I’m really thinking, when we going to get rid of this rotten political form and get down to brass tacks and studying Christ.
     
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    all sinned.....at one point in time. We all sinned and died in Adam
     
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    1 Corinthians 15:22, ". . . For as in Adam all die, . . ."
     
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    I was thinking of what is actually taught in Roman's 3:23......all sinned at one point in time....the fall.
     
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    Bingo...and that, folks, is the bedrock of original sin.
     
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    That, as I understand, is contrary to Deuteronomy 24:16, "The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin."
     
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    I think Romans 3:23 says it well, "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God." Only through Christ and His blood can we be justified freely by His grace (Romans 3:24-25) KJV.

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    It is not a contradiction at all. We each have our own sins to give account of.
     
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    When you change your profile pic? :Laugh[​IMG]


    There is a group of folks, not saying who, who think God would have a child raped for his glory.

    There is a group of folks, not saying who, who literally hear GOD's COMMAND and don't have a clue of what he Want and Desires.

    There is a group of folks, not saying who, who love to bully folks and using God to do it is a cherry on top, They get to mask it all under the guise of tough love.

    There is a raged pessimistic, not saying who, who grew up believing everyone was evil, bad and worthless and finally got the validation he wanted to hear.
     
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    Look, your church feeds the poor. Mine make disciples. Both believe Christ is sovereign. So what are banging on about... get out there and feed them.... screw the stuff that separates us.
     
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    By choosing to save some and not others (Romans 9:11-23), God is not a puppet master, forcing those outside the elect to commit sins contrary to their own wills and desires. Instead, God leaves them to their natural fallen condition:

    By the regeneration of the Holy Spirit, God’s elect are enabled to turn from sin and receive faith in Jesus Christ:

    This doesn’t mean that Christians will never sin, but those who show no evidence of regeneration whatsoever have reason to doubt that their conversion was genuine:

    2 Peter 1
    5 For this very reason, make every effort to add to your faith goodness; and to goodness, knowledge; 6 and to knowledge, self-control; and to self-control, perseverance; and to perseverance, godliness; 7 and to godliness, mutual affection; and to mutual affection, love. 8 For if you possess these qualities in increasing measure, they will keep you from being ineffective and unproductive in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 But whoever does not have them is nearsighted and blind, forgetting that they have been cleansed from their past sins. 10 Therefore, my brothers and sisters, make every effort to confirm your calling and election. For if you do these things, you will never stumble, 11 and you will receive a rich welcome into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
     
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