Featured Biblical vs Reformed Salvation

really? then show how!

 

yet again you fail to respond to what I have written! typical reformed answer!

 

because you are bilnded by your theology!

 

It is taught in the Bible, Titus 3:5 and Revelation 1:5, but you guys cannot see this!

 

that is what I have said! the Gospel Message preached from the Bible!

 

And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God - 1 Cor 6.11

how much more will the blood of the Messiah, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without blemish to God, cleanse our consciences from dead works to serve the living God? - Hebrews 9:14

 

Good day to you!

I have shown from the passage in Colossians 2:13, that the "quickening" of the sinner, is simultaneous with "forgiveness", as in the Greek. There is no sequence or time delay in this. This is also seen from Ephesians 1:13, where the sinner, "upon believing" in Jesus as their Saviour, are "sealed", that is, "saved, born again". The KJV reads as it does for theological purposes, and not what the Bible in the Greek actually says!

 

salvation IS being born again! since when did this change in the Bible?

 

please feel free to show where I have got it wrong?

13 Ἐν ᾧ καὶ ὑμεῖς ἀκούσαντες τὸν λόγον τῆς ἀληθείας, τὸ εὐαγγέλιον τῆς σωτηρίας ὑμῶν ἐν ᾧ καὶ πιστεύσαντες ἐσφραγίσθητε τῷ πνεύματι τῆς ἐπαγγελίας τῷ ἁγίῳ, 14 ὅ ἐστιν ἀρραβὼν τῆς κληρονομίας ἡμῶν, εἰς ἀπολύτρωσιν τῆς περιποιήσεως, εἰς ἔπαινον τῆς δόξης αὐτοῦ.

Where is the one sentence you are speaking about? How does this show that I am wrong? As I have shown, in the Greek it is very clear. The sealing was the result of believing, and that was the result of hearing the gospel. The action of believing and sealing by the Spirit, happen simultaneously. Which is, “you heard…you believed…and then you were sealed.”. No time lapse in the Greek! The repentant, believing sinner becomes a child of God, when they are “regenerated” and “washed” and “renewed” by God the Holy Spirit. If this is not right, then please feel free to correct my understanding of the Greek.

 

what do you make of 2 Cor 7:10? "For godly sorrow produces repentance leading to salvation, a repentance not to be regretted; but the sorrow of the world finally produces death" (Weymouth)

 

so, you are saying, that from verses 3 to 14 in the Greek, it is only the one "sentence"? Really? Do you know what a "sentence" is? I have the Greek manuscripts that have Ephesians, and I cannot see how all of these verses are "sentence"! Show me from the Greek then

 

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, 4 even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before [him, in love 5 having predestined] us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, 6 to the praise of his glorious grace, with which he has blessed us in the [Beloved, 7 in whom] we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace, 8 which he lavished upon us, in all wisdom and insight 9 ;making known to us the mystery of his will, according to his purpose, which he set forth in Christ 10 as a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth, 11 [in whom] we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will, 12 so that we who were the first to hope in Christ might be to the praise of his [glory, 13 in whom] you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, 14who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.

So say some! But this is not correct.

 

"Steven Baugh, author of the EEC volume on Ephesians, takes issue with the claim that the beginning of Ephesians is “a long sentence of 202 words”

Paul’s “Longest” Sentence (Eph 1.3-14)

 

Yeah the multiple people you refer to are the so called reformed, who object to the OP because it challenges their theology rather than what the Bible actually says. Like some who question my knowledge of the Greek language supposing to undermine what I say. But they actually show their own lack of knowledge of biblical Greek themselves.