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Help with Daniel 11:30

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by George Antonios, Feb 1, 2021.

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  1. George Antonios

    George Antonios Well-Known Member

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    EDIT: SORRY ABOUT ERROR IN TITLE REFERENCE.

    Dan 11:20 Then shall stand up in his estate a raiser of taxes in the glory of the kingdom: but within few days he shall be destroyed, neither in anger, nor in battle.

    Luk 2:1 And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus, that all the world should be taxed.
    Luk 2:2 (And this taxing was first made when Cyrenius was governor of Syria.)
    Luk 2:3 And all went to be taxed, every one into his own city.
    Luk 2:4 And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David:)
    Luk 2:5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.

    Could anyone make the case that Daniel 11:20 at least partially foresaw Caesar Augusts' taxing?
    He reigned from 27 B.C. to 14 A.D. - about 40 years, which is a long time.
    He did die while accompanying Tiberius on the first leg of a journey towards a military posting in Illyricum (or strictly, by that date, Dalmatia) after 3 weeks of illness.

    Augustus’ final journey

    Please answer the OP specifically - namely, could Augustus Caesar be thus said to have died within few days?

    I don't care for changing the text, I believe it as it stands within few days.
    And it's taxing not census (anyway the purpose of the census was for taxing).

    I've read dozens of commentaries and untold views about all the Antiochuses and what not.
    So please don't take me down those lines.

    I'm just asking, again, specifically, about Augustus and the few days. Can they fit?

    Thanks.
     
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    The mortality of humankind is ascribed as but a "few days" so it can mean the length of a person's life. (Ecc. 2:3)
     
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    True, but whereas that is true for all men, it is mentioned as a distinguishing feature of that particular king.
     
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    Possibly to demonstrate the contrast between the eternal nature of God's kingdom vice the few days of an earthly kingdom?
     
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    My inclination is to think "within few days" means within few days (not too long a time) of his standing up in his place -- that is, a short-lived reign. However, if there are other things that might point to Augustus, perhaps it might be taken as "within few days" of his having taken sick.
     
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