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  1. timtofly

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    The Second Coming will happen when all humans are least expecting. The only sign left is WW3. Will WW3 be less dramatic than Covid19? We would not want to get too specific and dramatic to give away the point of the actual Second Coming.
     
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    No, there are several signs showing the general time of Jesus' return which have definitely NOT yet occurred. I pointed them out in an earlier post. All are from Scripture.

    Matt. 24:29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

    So we see, from Jesus Himself, that the great trib must occur first. He gave Paul this prophecy, so Paul wrote-2 Thess. 2:3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

    So, the Jews will build a new temple in Jerusalem where the 'beast' will commit the "abomination of desolation", as prophesied by jesus Himself in Matt. 24.

    While the exact time of Jesus' return isn't given, nor will be known until it occurs, there are several signs that will show it's imminent. One that's occurring now is the great falling away, with much of the world accepting LGBTQ as the new normal, & the rise of many cults, sects, & false worship.
     
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    "The Return of Yeshua in the Year 6,000 From Creation and How Many Years Are Left"

    Yeshua is already here we debate all the time. He'll probably show up any minute now. :p
     
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    But He's not PHYSICALLY here. And He won't show up til the eschatological events occur. And when he does, it'll be in like manner as He departed.
     
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    There is a Muslim Mosque sitting on that spot on the Temple Mount called the Dome of the Rock that is the third most “holy” site in Islam.

    Hard to see a Jewish temple being built there any time soon.

    peace to you
     
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    Is the church working to expose Satan, or does Satan have to walk out and introduce himself to the world?

    The Apostasy of the church is enough proof for me that Satan is real. Trying to get Satan to step forward may be an entirely different event.

    As for the sun and moon being a sign, when that happens it will be too late, to prepare. That is the Second Coming.

    15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place,

    This is not a sign of the Second Coming. This is a sign of the end of the world/age. The destruction of the Temple was a sign 40 years after the Cross, the literal end of the OT economy. The building of the Temple is the sign the end of the church age has happened. The church will be complete before the Temple is built.

    The church is complete at the Second Coming. The Temple cannot be a sign prior to the event like the destruction of the Temple was not a sign prior to the end of the OT economy. Has any one considered that Jesus Christ will build the Temple He plans to rule from for the next 1000 years? God allows Satan to desecrate His Temple. In what way? It may only be the outer courts.

    1 I was given a measuring rod like a stick and told, “Get up, and measure the Temple of God and the altar, and count how many people are worshipping there!
    2 But the court outside the Temple, leave that out; don’t measure it; because it has been given to the Goyim, and they will trample over the holy city for forty-two months.

    If this is the New Temple of God just built in Jerusalem, would not Jesus build it Himself at the Second Coming?
     
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    Researchers from Hebrew University who illegally entered the passages beneath the Dome found that the actual temple site is beside the Dome. But I still don't see a new temple being buiilt there tomorrow!
     
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    Evidently, you ignored the Scriptures I posted in #22. I believe Scripture over the guesswork of man every time. Your guru has loaded you with wrong ideas.

    There are DEFINITELY several prophecies yet to be fulfilled before Jesus returns.
     
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    I gave the Scriptures. And your reply is "I doubt those Scriptures"? You did not address them. I pointed out in Matthew that Jesus was answering about the end of the Age, not His Second Coming. His Second Coming is what Jesus claims:

    29 “But immediately following the trouble of those times,

    the sun will grow dark,
    the moon will stop shining,
    the stars will fall from the sky,
    and the powers in heaven will be shaken.

    30 “Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, all the tribes of the Land will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with tremendous power and glory.

    All humanity will see both the sign and the Second Coming at the same time. John confirms this in:

    12 Then I watched as he broke the sixth seal, and there was a great earthquake, the sun turned black as sackcloth worn in mourning, and the full moon became blood-red.
    13 The stars fell from heaven to earth just as a fig tree drops its figs when shaken by a strong wind.
    14 The sky receded like a scroll being rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved from its place.
    15 Then the earth’s kings, the rulers, the generals, the rich and the mighty — indeed, everyone, slave and free — hid himself in caves and among the rocks in the mountains,
    16 and said to the mountains and rocks,Fall on us, and hide us from the face of the One sitting on the throne and from the fury of the Lamb!

    Jesus says they will see the Son of Man. John says they hide from the Lamb and the One sitting on the throne. Hiding from the sun and moon is not the point. They are hiding from God Himself.

    Paul seconds the truth in Titus 2:13

    13 while continuing to expect the blessed fulfillment of our certain hope, which is the appearing of the Sh’khinah of our great God and the appearing of our Deliverer, Yeshua the Messiah.

    This is the Second Coming. An unknown timed event that will change the world forever. An event 1991 years in the making.
     
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    No, Scripture plainly says that the beast will come first, and he will sit in the temple of God & claim to be God. That's the AOD.
    While he's at it, he will have his sidekick the false prophet issue the marka the beast.
    The "day of the Lord' is Jesus' return.
    And the great trib must also occur.

    Right now, none of that has happened yet. But the Jews must build a new temple in Jerusalem for it to occur. That scenario is plainly set forth in Scripture. There's no making anything else outta it.
     
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    Well, that’s interesting.

    peace to you
     
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    I saw it somewhere on the internet a coupla years ago on one of the legitimate news sites-I don't remember which one. But you've likely heard of the illegal exploration by those professors. (Israel has an agreement with several Islamic nations to not allow anyone, Jew or otherwise, to prowl the passages underneath the Dome. The profs "snuck" in; when discovered, they were ordered out, but not arrested.)
     
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    The idea that the human history may be about 6,000 years is based on the calculations of the ages and generations in the old testament.
    Jehovah Witness people calculated it as ca. 4,026 years
    That is absolutely WRONG!
    Because there are the Principles of the Omission in the Jewish Recording of the history and chronicles, especially in Seder Olam Rabbah.

    Seder Olam Rabbah - Wikipedia.


    1. For example:
    Mt 1: mentions the kings of Israel ( Judah) but omitted 3 kings:
    Mt 1:8- Jehoram-Uzziah, But 2 Chronicles 21-26 tells us the kings:
    Jehoram- Ahaziah-Joash-Amaziah - Uzziah

    3 Kings were omitted.

    Josephus mention that Ruth and Naomi lived around the time of Judge Eli, during the late part of the Judges. However Mt 1:5 says Boaz was the son of Salmon and Rachab
    Boaz and Rachab lived in the beginning of Judges era. We can presume that ca. 10 generations are omitted between Boaz and Salmon as the period of Judges up to Samuel are about 450 years according to Acts 13:18-22, which leaves ca. 400 years between Salmon and Boaz. Therefore there are lots of omission of the period.

    Moreover, Luke 3:36 mentions Cainan which is not mentioned in Genesis 10:24.

    1 Kings 6:1 mentions 480 years between Exodus and Temple Construction in the 4th year of Solomon. If you read Acts 13, it doesn't coincide. Because Seder Olam Rabbah omitted these period as the subjugation to the Canaanites, which is 93 years.
    So, the actual period is 573 years instead of 480 years

    Are these only the omissions in the Bible? I don't think so, there must be a lot more.
    Why do these omissions take place?
    There are certain principles of the recording history by the high priests.
    If Matthew recorded Ahaziah, Joash, Amaziah in Mt 1, the learned Jews would have laughed at it, because they belonged to Northern Kingdom Israel instead of Judah because the Jehoram was corrupted due to the marriage with Omri family of Northern Kingdom.

    Therefore we can imagine that the genealogy of the Bible is the generations of the generations approved by God and there can be lots of omissions.
    However, I don't think the human history is more than 20,000 years, which I am not very sure.
    The idea that the period between Adam and Noah's Flood is 1656 years is WRONG due to the principle of omission.

    Therefore any imagination or calculation for the Ages, Generations, Dispensations cannot be accurate, but just for study.
    There should be great Wars, Euphrates and Armageddon War, before the coming of Messiah. We will see the sequences of the events.

    God Bless You All.

    Eliyahu
     
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    The Armageddon "war" will be the gathering of the 'beast's' armies to try to fight Jesus soon after His return, but He shall destroy them with the sharp sword of His spoken word. it won't be much of a 'war'.
     
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    5 years are left until the year 6,000 from creation in 2026 AD, which will be the true timing of the return of Yeshua, in the autumn. 7,000 years have been appointed for the existence of this earth, with the last 1,000 years set apart, beginning in the year 6,000. That is why God created the world in 6 days, and set apart the 7th day, to foreshadow his 7,000 year plan for this earth, with the last 1,000 years set apart, which is the 1,000 year rulership of Yeshua on this earth mentioned in the book of Revelation. It is the “millennial shabbath” of this earth. The earth is not billions of years old, that is a lie told by men who want to deny the existence of God and that the scriptures are true. Very soon they will discover how wrong they were. And one of the most misinterpreted scriptures is “no one knows the day nor the hour”. The believers almost 2,000 years ago did not know if Yeshua would return 100 years after his first coming, or 200 years, or 500 years, or 1,000 years. It is like a master that tells his servants, “I am returning in the night”. The servants do not know if the master is returning at 9 PM, or 12 AM, or 3 AM, yet if it is now 5 AM, now the servants know it is the final hour for the return of the master. So in likewise manner it is for us now approaching the year 6,000 from creation. We are in the final hour and it is quite obvious Yeshua is about to appear, to begin the millennial shabbath of this earth, as was predestined from the very beginning of this earth. And that is why unlike believers almost 2,000 years ago, we who are in the final hour, and know the Torah and its appointed times, know the time of the return of Yeshua, which will be 2026 AD, in the year 6,000 from creation. From Adam to Abraham it was 2,010 years. And from Abraham to the anointing of Yeshua in 26 AD it was 1,990 years, therefore it was the year 4,000 from creation. That is why according to the prophet Hosea, Yeshua will return after 2 days, meaning 2,000 years. Which is 2,000 years from his anointing in the year 4,000 in 26 AD to his return in the year 6,000 in 2026 AD, which are both Yovel years. In the last 3 and 1/2 years, beginning in 2023 AD, in the spring, in the morning of Nisan 15 according to the Jewish calendar and in Jerusalem time, the two witnesses of Revelation will appear, clothed in sackcloth, from two different cities in the world. They will strike the world with plagues and will shut the heavens so that it doesn’t rain. Therefore there will be global drought and famine beginning in 2 years from now. They are the last warning to the world, but the world will not understand, will hate them, and seek to kill them. Then 3 years later after the two witnesses begin to prophesy all fiat currencies will enter into hyperinflation globally, with the destruction of Vatican City. For she is the true prostitute of Babylon of Revelation, in Rome, ruling over all the cities of the world through central banks and money. Her destruction will also be the collapse of the global financial system, for she is the head of the global financial system. There will be utter chaos in the world, for no one will be able to buy and sell anymore, for all fiat currencies of the world will lose their value. Fiat currency is the true mark of the beast of Revelation, for it is a false weight, whose value is a mere illusion. Gold and silver are true money, whose value is based on weight, according to the Torah of God. All who used and possess fiat currency are under a curse written in the book of Revelation, “if anyone receives the mark he will drink the wine of the wrath of God and will be tormented in fire and sulfur”. Therefore anyone who truly wishes to obey the commands of God must also get rid of all fiat currency, which is how the mark of the beast is removed. Which is why not having the mark of the beast is a true test for those who obey the commands of God, for money is a necessity to buy food and water and necessities. And the Roman papacy is the true seat of the antichrist, deceiving the entire world into believing many lies, including the lie that the Torah does not need to be obeyed. And clandestinely subjecting the entire world to his financial system of fiat currency. Then 6 months later after the destruction of Vatican City will be the descension of Yeshua, who will strike the world with 7 terrible plagues, for 7 days. His descension on the earth will be in the morning in Jerusalem time in Elul 22, according to the Jewish calendar. And 7 and 1/2 days later the 7 trumpets of Revelation will be blasted for 7 days, beginning in Tishri 1, according to the Jewish calendar. The trumpet blasts will be heard all over the world, and at the 7th trumpet blast, in Tishri 7, Yeshua will begin to rule the earth. The trumpet blasts are the the grand inauguration of the rulership of Yeshua, with great displays of power. It will rain fire, the seas will be turned to blood, the sun and moon will be darkened, and 1/3 of humanity will be slaughtered by a great army of angels. 3 days later in Tishri 10, on Yom Kippur, which is the Day of Atonement, the people of God will be gathered from all over the world, by angels, at the sound of the great shofar. This is the “last blast” mentioned by the apostle Paul, which is the day of the 1st resurrection. Which is commonly called the “rapture”. The two witnesses who will die in the morning of Tishri 6, in Jerusalem, will be resurrected also on this day in Tishri 10, 3 and 1/2 days later after their death. Although they begin prophesying in two different cities in the world, they will die 1,260 days later in Jerusalem. And all who were gathered in Tishri 10 will be taken to meet Yeshua in the air in the clouds of the sky, in Israel, for that is where God has appointed the people of God will finally join Yeshua. And all of these will make residence in a new mountain that will form around the mountains of Hebron, in Israel, which will be called “Mount Zion”, for 1,000 years. A great city will be built south of the mountain, according to Ezekiel, for the people of God that were gathered in Tishri 10. And lava will flow from Mount Zion to the north, to Jerusalem, and will form into a lake of lava outside the southern gate of Jerusalem. Then, 5 days later, in Tishri 15, in Sukkot, the 7 bowls of wrath of Revelation will be poured on all humanity. Which are 7 plagues. At the 1st plague all humanity will be struck with boils, and at the 7th plague a global earthquake will cause all cities on the earth to collapse. Then all humanity will be captured by the armies of angels Yeshua will descend with. And all will be taken to the eastern side of Jerusalem to be judged. All will stand accused of the commands they broke in the Torah, which all mankind has discarded and disobeyed. It is because of the disobedience of humanity and the refusal to obey the Torah and believe in Yeshua that such great wrath will be poured on all humanity, from God. The wrath to come will be far worse than the global destruction of the flood of Noah, because they drowned quickly, whereas in the wrath to come God has appointed agony for all humanity for an extended period of time. Then all will be condemned to be thrown above the lake of lava that will form on the southern side of Jerusalem. Which will destroy both body and soul. And their last moments of existence will be sheer agony and horror. Only a small remnant will survive these events, which will be those who believed and obeyed and prepared. And these will rule this earth for 1,000 years, over another small remnant among the nations that will be granted mercy and will be permitted to live onwards. And all of this is what the scriptures call “the great tribulation”. It will be the worst events humanity has ever experienced, and it will never happen again. To prepare, a person must come to obedience of the commands of the Torah and believe in Yeshua. And I also recommend stocking up on food and water for at least 3 and 1/2 years. And own your home, without rent nor mortgage. If you follow these recommendations, then you will survive. But if you refuse to follow these recommendations, then you will die. 5 years are left.

    The Dates of the Return of Yeshua and the Events the Great Tribulation of the Earth | Wisdom of God
     
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