Exodus 20

Is satan a thief and robber?

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Joh_10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.​

What did Jesus do, when the thief entered His house? He laid down His life (self sacrifice), and did not take life.

Jews, Romans and Herod even put many Christians to death, like Stephen, James, Peter, Paul, etc. What teaching in scripture, gave anyone left alive from that to take the life of those taking the lives (murder, persecution) of Christians? There is none.

Do you think Jesus had a chance to kill satan before he came to this earth, or even after Calvary? Do we still have to trust that and have faith in the character of God?

There is a difference between the 'kill' (Exodus 20) of the commandment, and capital punishment (execution of justice) issued by God (Revelation 20).

 

One method of justifying ungodly behavior is to create an "enabling scenario" whereby wrong behavior is justified. For example, would you allow a nuke to explode in a major city, or would you use any method available to find it before it exploded.

 

We all have a chance to kill, or a chance to lay down our lives.

There are two groups:

[1]

Joh_16:2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.

[2]

Joh_15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

 

The story changes a little when the wife and children are involved.

Can either of you find a biblical example or a commandment of God where killing is involved in the defense of family?

Jacob separated his wife and children when coming to meet Esau.


Then Jacob was greatly afraid and distressed:
and he divided the people that was with him...
And said if Esau come to the one company,
and smite it,
then the other company which is left shall escape.
Genesis 32:7-8

 

Can you please explain what you mean by "Bionically"?

And are there bible verses for your claim "acceptable to kill for self defense"?

 

Interestingly enough, my son the Hebrew prof just preached on this in chapel. The Hebrew word used in this commandment means "murder," as has been said, but it is also sometimes used for killing that is not murder. However, it is never used for killing the enemy in a war.

 

All opinion, some very good and seems normal to me, but no bible verses to support.