God is a God of Reason: Why Calvinism Fails

Back to the Hippie avatar...
Perhaps you are Jesse Morrel. lol.

All of these anti-Cals sites are useless.

 

humbled

Thats true, thats why God doesnt reason with the dead, see man by nature is dead to God, he died to God in Adam, and so there is no reasoning with the dead. By nature are minds are blinded 2 Cor 3:14

But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.

2 Cor 4:4

In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Mans mental reasoning is void of Spiritual Life and so its reasoning is under the power of sin and death.

 

When folk are dead, they need to be made alive. You dont enable dead people, you either make them alive to act, or they remain dead. Dead men cant reason , they dead ! poof

 

When you say make them alive what you really mean is be regenerated/born again/saved. That is not biblical that's calvinism.

So what was God saying in these verses.
Deu 4:27 And the LORD will scatter you among the peoples, and you will be left few in number among the nations where the LORD will drive you.

Deu 4:28 And there you will serve gods, the work of men's hands, wood and stone, which neither see nor hear nor eat nor smell.

Deu 4:29 But from there you will seek the LORD your God, and you will find Him if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul.

Was God be disingenuous when He said they could seek & find Him? We see that even though the people had turned to false gods they still had the ability to seek God and find Him. This text describes the nature of genuine repentance: a turning away from sin, unto obedience to God and His ways.

Jer 29:12 Then you will call upon Me and go and pray to Me, and I will listen to you.


Jer 29:13 And you will seek Me and find Me, when you search for Me with all your heart.


Jer 29:14 I will be found by you, says the LORD,

Note again here that it is the people that call upon God and seek Him. The emphasis here is that His people must chose to return to Him God does not make them do it. As we know not all the Jews returned to Jerusalem


Hos 5:15 I will return again to My place Till they acknowledge their offense. Then they will seek My face; In their affliction they will earnestly seek Me."


The first step in repentance is confession of sin; the second, turning to God. Man must recognize their sinful ways, turn from them and seek Gods’ forgiveness.


We see that man can seek God, they can repent of their sinful ways.

 

Back to the ole "its not fair" mantra !

 

Looks like NT Wrong strikes again!

 

What aspect of manking not affected by the fall of Adam?

 

If No original Sin, why are we lost and in rebellion against God until born again and saved>

 

The scripture teaches man is naturally dead to God, Spiritually dead !

 

What does Scripture say?

" Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
4 according as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
5 having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
6 to the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
7 in whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
8 wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence;
9 having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:" ( Ephesians 1:3-8 ).

Contrary to human reasoning, I see this declaring, in no uncertain terms, that it was God who chose the believer in Christ.
It was done before the foundation of the world, and according to the good pleasure of His will.
It was also to the praise of the glory of His grace, and He made us accepted in the beloved.

Notice that it does not say that we made ourselves accepted in the beloved.

"Unconditional Election" right there, HD.
I'm not sure how you missed it.

Since the Lord chose the believers at Ephesus in Christ, and that choice was made before the foundation of the world, then it was indeed unconditional on their part.

 

To me, being born again is not salvation.
It is a benefit of being saved and happens in real time for one of God's elect.

It is to be "quickened" ( Ephesians 2:1-6, Colossians 2:13 ), or made alive towards God and in Christ.

It is completely Scriptural.

He was assuring the nation of Israel, whom He had made a covenant with, that if they sought Him with all their heart, they would find Him.
That same promise applies to all men.

The problem is, no one does ( Romans 3:10-18, Psalms 10, Psalms 14, Psalms 58 ).
In fact, we all run the opposite direction, in our hearts ( Romans 1:32, John 3:19-20 ).

Not at all.

I don't see the Lord stating that they had the desire or the ability.
I see Him making a promise, and nothing more.

He's pleading with His people Israel, whom He again, had made a covenant with and it was they who had agreed to keep it.

I agree.
See Romans 1, Romans 2 and Romans 3 for who it is that repents and turns away from sin and towards God.

Amen.

I agree...once they are set free by the power of God.

 

There is no such thing as "essentials", HD.
Every word of God is important, and the believer must ( and will, by the power of the Spirit ) live by them.

See Matthew 4:4, Luke 4:4.

You won't find that concept anywhere in God's word, sir, with regard to doctrine and the Gospel.

 

But whether or not one believes God's word, and all of it, shows whether or not they are of God ( John 8:43-47 ).
Those who reject God's words are not His, HD.