Featured Opposing Presuppositions.

I find the story of a blind man blind from birth who had no sin.Jn. 9:6 to 41
Joh 9:40 And some of the Pharisees which were with him heard these words, and said unto him, Are we blind also?
Joh 9:41 Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.

Why was this man with out sin? If he infact was a born sinner.
MB

 

The famous saying of a fool is what Rom 3:10 is not doctrine It is what the fool said in his heart. He also said there is no God.. Do you believe this as well?. This is how ignorant people get, they don't think to look and see who it was that says it.
MB

 

Paul doesn't make any argument.
Actually Paul isn't arguing it. He is telling men that this is how some of the lost think. It's ridiculous to assume he is talking about total depravity He knows that He him self has sought God. Remember he first was a member of the Sanhedrin. He didn't seek Christ however anyone who prays is seeking God. Most of those who are praying are seeking God. You seek God every time you pray. So do I and I prayed before I was saved.

Psa 14:1 To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

Notice How Paul starts off He says there is none righteous. We know better than that because David Him self is writing about it. Was Matthew ,Mark, Luke, and John were righteous so how could it be that there is none righteous? They sought God as well
Rom 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Rom 3:11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
Is this really true? No it isn't It is easily proved that it isn't.
Maybe you can show where he says this is the state of men before Salvation. Because Paul doesn't This part is assumed. What I believe is that this is what the fool thought about those who do seek God. Just like myself I thought all Christians were just putting on an act before I was saved.I thought they were all a bunch of hypocrites.
The fact that he says there is none that doth good. Doing good is all Christ did.
MB

 

And where is that in Scripture?

 

That narrative does not in any way say he had no sin. Read it closer. It says sin did not cause his disabilities.

 

I KNOW!!! I KNOW!!! PICK ME!!!! It's not in Scripture anywhere.

 

And when taking a close look, none of that actually supports their position.

 

The position that they are born without sin? Oh sorry, the idea that under 12 are not accountable. Because that is not what those Scriptures state. That's reading into it something that is not there.

 

We learn the bible one section at a time. And our presupposition is that it is all true and all fits together, with no section teaching something inconsistent with any other section.

So as we study we grow in our understanding, and we use that understanding (our presuppositions) to help us understand additional sections of scripture. Hard therefore to escape our presuppositions.

And when some of us understand a doctrine this way, and others understand that same section another way, we become judgmental and question the qualifications of those with differing "presuppositions."