Christians Punished?

Aren't you thinking of the Washington Times? That one is the one owned by Moon.

A non-question. God knew he would obey before God made the Covenant with him. God knows all. See?

 

OR, you are cracking me up.

 

A non-question. God knew he would obey before God made the Covenant with him. God knows all. See?

God picked him, remember?

 

if grace were irresistable, why would people who are clearly under the conviction of the Holy Spirit in a church service, gripping the back of the pew until their knuckles were white, refuse to go to the altar during altar call? And then head out the door of the church and be seen at a local bar the next day?

People can resist the Holy Ghost.

Acts 7:51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers [did], so [do] ye.

 

Yes, praise God, God PICKED him!

Genesis 12:
[1] Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:
[4] So Abram departed, as the LORD had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran.
[5] And Abram took Sarai his wife, and Lot his brother's son, and all their substance that they had gathered, and the souls that they had gotten in Haran; and they went forth to go into the land of Canaan; and into the land of Canaan they came.
[6] And Abram passed through the land unto the place of Sichem, unto the plain of Moreh. And the Canaanite was then in the land.
[7] And the LORD appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land: and there builded he an altar unto the LORD, who appeared unto him.
[9] And Abram journeyed, going on still toward the south.

 

Gen.17
[1] And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.
[2] And I will make my covenant between me and thee, and will multiply thee exceedingly.
[3] And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, saying,
[4] As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations.
[5] Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.
[6] And I will make thee exceeding fruitful, and I will make nations of thee, and kings shall come out of thee.
[7] And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee.
[8] And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.

and again,

[13] He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised: and my covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant.

[15] And God said unto Abraham, As for Sarai thy wife, thou shalt not call her name Sarai, but Sarah shall her name be.
[16] And I will bless her, and give thee a son also of her: yea, I will bless her, and she shall be a mother of nations; kings of people shall be of her.
[17] Then Abraham fell upon his face, and laughed, and said in his heart, Shall a child be born unto him that is an hundred years old? and shall Sarah, that is ninety years old, bear?
[18] And Abraham said unto God, O that Ishmael might live before thee!
[19] And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him.
[20] And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation.
[21] But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year.
[22] And he left off talking with him, and God went up from Abraham.

 

I don't understand how anyone could vote yes. Help me here.

Are they saying (in their dispy view of things) that God would punish the Christian for having a conflict with a non-Christian Jew?

And yes, there are conflicts between Christians and Jews -- always have been. Also, don't forget that many Palestinians are Christians, not Muslims.

 

That is your rebuttal?

 

He is. God picked him.

The covenant was unconditional and everlasting because God said it was everlasting and not based on what Abraham would or would not do.

How can I explain this so you will understand?

 

That is a non-issue because God (who knows everything including the future) knew Abraham would obey. Besides, God didn't make the covenant until after Abraham had left Ur.

Huh???? What 1000 years???