AKA, Natural Immunity

yea its crazy how people under the banner of Christian will spit on you and try to tell you its raining

 

Have you listened to Prez Joe or Faucci in last few weeks?
You lack the ability to ignore the vax issue. You all up in the middle of every vax discussion on here and you say you are ignoring it and have moved on. Hilarious really.

 

Is it the anti cv jabbers trying to control every one?

No .. .

even stipulating your incessant “employer right to run a business” mantra ... it’s the cv vax pushers who are spending bucks we don’t have on test kits, cv jab paper requirements, mask requirements, quarantine requirements ... testing requirements.

The vast majority of cv jab opposers are more than willing to let you move along.

Making statements about the expected life span of a cv jabbed is hardly changing another’s life, Jon.

But you repeatedly refuse to accept the reality ... the cv jab pushers are the ones running this thing into the ground. Congrats. That’s some doctorate level cognitive dissonance.

 

The Dem Progressive Left is counting on that.

But that is not what the post I responded to generalized, namely “it is the anti-covid-vaxers that live in terror,” not the vaxxed. And note the dichotomy that presents.

It would be just as easy, and perhaps much more correct, to say that counting the number of vaxxed is akin to counting sheep, a very useful number for political manipulators to know.

Many of the vaxxed, perhaps the majority, were just doing what they were told, aka were frightened or forced into, regardless of whatever the real science is. Hint for those folk: The mendaciously wishy-washy Fauci is not the real science.

 

Covid Hysteria
Is this the article you keep referring to? I simply posted an article without comment. Earlier in the thread I prefaced a post with WHAT IF. That is lost on you in your fervor to demean. This is a forum. A forum is where ideas are bandied about for discussion. Intelligent people are able to handle the free exchange of ideas, & glean whatever is useful or not to them. You are not able to entertain any thought which goes against your thought. I am honored to constantly be named on your hit list. That means it’s getting to you. Good. You need it.

 

Sadism: The Next Ugly Stage of the Pandemic of Fear
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Mark McDonald, M.D.
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December 15, 2021
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At the beginning of the pandemic, I felt sympathy and pity for those who chose to live in fear. Many had been misinformed by media, politicians and bureaucrats whose investment in accumulating wealth and consolidating power outweighed any loyalty to ethics, truth and public welfare. Now, I believe that maintaining that sympathy may be not only undeserved but potentially harmful, because the fear has evolved into something far more dark and destructive: sadism, deriving pleasure from inflicting pain, suffering or humiliation on another.

In summer 2020, I was banned for life from Delta airlines for drinking water for longer than six minutes on a flight from Atlanta to Moline, Iowa. At least, that was what I was told by the flight attendant, who was apparently carrying a stopwatch and using it to measure the amount of time I spent with my face uncovered after boarding the plane. When the plane landed, the “station manager” escorted me off, prompting a round of applause from the other passengers. I wasn’t personally offended; I interpreted the applause as an expression of relief rather than of contempt. The tirade they had witnessed from the flight attendant had scared them, and my prompt removal from the plane made them feel safe. I felt pity toward them rather than anger.

More than a year later, the situation has changed dramatically. Certainly, there are still many Americans living in fear. Some have been suffering from a state of chronic fear for so long now that a more accurate way to describe them would be “traumatized.” Others, however, have largely overcome their fear and are now leading lives of brazen cruelty toward their fellow man, and they are enjoying every minute of it.

Recently, the famed Leftist academic Noam Chomsky recommended in an interview that those who choose not to be vaccinated should self-segregate. When asked how they would obtain food, he responded that finding a way to eat was “their problem.” His position resembles that of Middle Age European townsfolk who, on discovering a woman had committed adultery, would expel her from the village into the surrounding forest to fend for herself, fully aware she would likely starve to death, unless she was eaten alive by wild animals first. Sadism at its finest.

Nationally syndicated talk-show host (and unvaccinated) Dennis Prager recovered from infection by the coronavirus last October. During his three-day absence from broadcasting, he announced the reason for his taking time off. On his return, he read on-air some of the hundreds of comments made about him by journalists, commentators, and the public that were published online or posted on social media.

“I hope you die.” “People like you should be refused treatment.” “You finally got what you deserve.” He explained that none of these comments upset him personally. “I’m not hurt by this, but I do feel sad for my country.” He also apologized for letting these people down by not dying and recovering fully in only three days.

I submit that these examples do not describe fear, or even anger. They exemplify sadism. Americans have begun to take pleasure in seeing other Americans suffer. This sickness appears to be unidirectional. How many examples can be found of pro-medical choice individuals expressly calling for the death of those who support vaccine mandates for all? The few that I have come across have been roundly condemned by people on both sides. Where are the condemnations from the pro-mandate crowd of Noam Chomsky’s genocidal proclamation, or the online commentators rooting for the demise of Dennis Prager, whose only crime is to have publicly announced his personal choice not to be vaccinated?

Australia has completed construction of “quarantine camps” that will presumably hold Australians who refuse the vaccine. These camps will be guarded by the military. Austria has already ordered its police to arrest anyone out in public without a vaccine card. These government-sanctioned crackdowns on the fundamental liberty of bodily autonomy raise comparisons to the Nazi regime. To be fair, no one has yet been interned or executed. That is an important distinction. The justification for the policies, though, is eerily similar to what every totalitarian regime uses to legitimize its extra-judicial police powers: public safety necessitates the elimination of an internal threat.

In 1930s Nazi Germany, the internal threat was the Jews. The internal threat today is the unvaccinated. As Joe Biden is fond of saying despite unassailable medical evidence to the contrary, “This is a pandemic of the unvaccinated … and our patience is wearing thin.” This talk is not only irresponsible, it also encourages the darkest impulses in human beings.

“He is so ashamed he can no longer show his face in public” is not an empty metaphor.

The institution of the mask dehumanized American men and women, just as the veil has dehumanized Muslim women in much of the Islamic world. Anonymity coupled with obligatory visual identifiers of group affiliation (like the infamous Jewish yellow star) emboldens unaccountable ugliness and cruelty. When media, politicians and bureaucrats side with the abuser, they provide both social and legal cover for sadistic acts that, only a brief time ago, virtually all Americans would have publicly condemned. Now we not only condone intentional cruelty but encourage it. We scowl at the sight of the unwashed forced to hastily consume their restaurant food in an unheated outdoor tent in winter. We smile at the firing of the refuseniks who object to employer mandates, and happily deny them both their pension and unemployment benefits. We celebrate the medical apartheid state that ghettoizes Americans who exercise medical choice. After all, they made their choice. Let them suffer.

I treat children and adults with mental illness. I see the dark side of human nature, and I try to understand it so that I can treat it. But I have no sympathy for the rise of sadism I see in America, and in Americans today. It is ugly, despicable, and wholly destructive. It is fundamentally anti-American.

“My body my choice” has now been replaced with “Vaccine make free.” And if you don’t agree, they will take pleasure in seeing you off to the camp.

Mark McDonald, M.D., is a Los Angeles-based psychiatrist and author of United States of Fear

Yup.

 

Let's move on.
God will allow death to kill people until Jesus comes back. The question is only whether God will allow you to die from Covid because you refused to be vaccinated or whether some other thing will kill you.

I am reminded of a Godly King...Josiah...who refused to listen to God when a pagan told him the truth and thus died because of it.

2 Chronicles 35:20-27

After Josiah had finished restoring the Temple, King Neco of Egypt led his army up from Egypt to do battle at Carchemish on the Euphrates River, and Josiah and his army marched out to fight him. But King Neco sent messengers to Josiah with this message:

“What do you want with me, king of Judah? I have no quarrel with you today! I am on my way to fight another nation, and God has told me to hurry! Do not interfere with God, who is with me, or he will destroy you.”

But Josiah refused to listen to Neco, to whom God had indeed spoken, and he would not turn back. Instead, he disguised himself and led his army into battle on the plain of Megiddo. But the enemy archers hit King Josiah with their arrows and wounded him. He cried out to his men, “Take me from the battle, for I am badly wounded!”

So they lifted Josiah out of his chariot and placed him in another chariot. Then they brought him back to Jerusalem, where he died.

Let us not tempt God. God has provided us the vaccine against Covid. Let us receive the vaccine. But, if you chose not to, do not bring a complaint against God if he allows Covid to kill you.

 

Does that really represent your attitude toward all of those not vaccinated against COVID-19?

 

Jim Jordan Urges CDC To Do A Natural Immunity Study And Compare It To The Vaccine

Premise is that US government, more specifically the CDC, doesn’t want to know and doesn't want you to know how well natural immunity is working against COVID-19.

The entire clip runs just over six minutes. Jordan questions Dr Makary (Johns Hopkins).

 

'There Is No Natural Immunity Lobby': GOP Reps Gaetz, Massie Discuss Vaccine Mandate

"In his podcast, 'Firebrand', Congressman Matt Gaetz discussed natural immunity with Congressman Massie, saying that the vaccine lobby is pushed by big pharma."

Congressman Massie, MIT graduate, called CDC to cite a “typo” in their report regarding antibodies. CDC promised to correct this but did not, then eventually glossed over the evidently intential error.

The indication is that the CDC is covering up how well natural immunity works. The problem is with the supposed “noble lies” being promulgated. However, Big Pharma is directly implicated in this as well.

Clip runs just under 12 minutes total. Quite an exposé.