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    Has anyone studied out, or worked through these portions of scripture to see how they apply to us in the New Covenant?

    Have you seen a link developing this theme, both in the Historical record in Deuteronomy, or the prophetic promises of the New Testament Church in Ezekiel?
    What do you see as some of the most significant portions of the importance of God, placing His name there?
    I have looked up several things but am curious if anyone has come across more material on this.


    God having brought The Israelites out of Egypt in the first Exodus, Gave them laws that were to be put on display that the Heathen could be instructed about the true and living God.
    Initially many of the verses were found in Deuteronomy 16:


    2 Thou shalt therefore sacrifice the passover unto the Lord thy God, of the flock and the herd, in the place which the Lord shall choose to place his name there.

    6 But at the place which the Lord thy God shall choose to place his name in,
    there thou shalt sacrifice the passover at even, at the going down of the sun, at the season that thou camest forth out of Egypt.

    11 And thou shalt rejoice before the Lord thy God, thou, and thy son, and thy daughter, and thy manservant, and thy maidservant, and the Levite that is within thy gates, and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, that is among you, in the place which the Lord thy God hath chosen to place his name there.
     
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    In Ezekiel 36-37 we see this theme developed.
    Israel had failed to do what they said they would.
    Ezekiel rebukes them, then looks forward;

    36;
    3 Therefore prophesy and say, Thus saith the Lord God; Because they have made you desolate, and swallowed you up on every side, that ye might be a possession unto the residue of the heathen, and ye are taken up in the lips of talkers, and are an infamy of the people:

    4 Therefore, ye mountains of Israel, hear the word of the Lord God; Thus saith the Lord God to the mountains, and to the hills, to the rivers, and to the valleys, to the desolate wastes, and to the cities that are forsaken, which became a prey and derision to the residue of the heathen that are round about;

    Now this;
    6 Prophesy therefore concerning the land of Israel, and say unto the mountains, and to the hills, to the rivers, and to the valleys, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I have spoken in my jealousy and in my fury, because ye have borne the shame of the heathen:

    7 Therefore thus saith the Lord God; I have lifted up mine hand, Surely the heathen that are about you, they shall bear their shame.

    What does it mean;ye have borne the shame of the heathen?
    It looks like a failure to live holy and separate, but rather intermingle with the non covenant heathen at the very least


    15 Neither will I cause men to hear in thee the shame of the heathen any more, neither shalt thou bear the reproach of the people any more, neither shalt thou cause thy nations to fall any more, saith the Lord God.

    Now more judgment;
    20 And when they entered unto the heathen, whither they went, they profaned my holy name, when they said to them, These are the people of the Lord, and are gone forth out of his land.

    21 But I had pity for mine holy name, which the house of Israel had profaned among the heathen, whither they went.

    22 Therefore say unto the house of Israel, thus saith the Lord God; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel,
    but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.

    23
    And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the Lord, saith the Lord God, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.

    36 Then the heathen that are left round about you shall know that I the Lord build the ruined places, and plant that that was desolate: I the Lord have spoken it, and I will do it.
     
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    Now, after the New Covenant promise of Ezk.36:25-27, we see prophecies looking forward to Kingdom living;

    In Ezk 37, the prophecy of the dry bones;

    21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:

    22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all.

    23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.

    24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.

    25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.

    26
    Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore.

    27 My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

    28 And the heathen shall know that I the Lord do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore.
     
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    Forerunner Commentary;
    Haggai 2:11-14

    To both questions the priests give a correct answer. Using the laws of clean and unclean, God points out a principle that applies to Christians today. Very simply, God says that it is impossible for God's holiness, in us because of our relationship with Him and the indwelling of His Spirit, to pass from us to the world. In other words, if a holy thing touches a profane thing, the profane item does not become holy.

    Ezekiel 20:16



    In this passage, God consistently uses a word translated in the King James as "polluted" and in the New King James as "profaned." Pollute means "to defile." Polluted air and water are, to some degree, defiled, stained, poisoned, contaminated, foul. It can imply desecrated, violated, and profaned. Profane means "to treat with irreverence and disrespect." It means "to treat as common": Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday are common days of the week, whereas the Sabbath is holy. It is special, set apart.

    So, what motivated these people to despise and to pollute His Sabbaths?

    Proverbs 4:23 reads, "Keep your heart with all diligence, for out of it spring the issues of life." Jesus updates this in Matthew 15:19: "For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, . . ." and about half a dozen other sins. Yet, just as surely as these evil things come out of the heart, so do good things.

    God says through Ezekiel that the Israelites broke the Sabbath because their hearts went after their idols. Spiritually, an idol can be anything to which we give our time or attention to the detriment of our relationship with God. However, we must understand that idolatry forces a person to do its will rather than God's. If the heart goes after an idol, the rest of the body will follow the heart. The heart—the thinking and emotional processes—imposes its will on the hands, the eyes, the ears, the mouth, etc., and they just follow what the heart wills to do. If our hearts follow an idol, God says we will surely break the Sabbath.


    On the other hand, the attitude of the world, if it comes in contact with His people, can pass from the world into us. Using the above wording, if a profane thing touches a holy thing, the holy item is contaminated. The spiritual principle for today's Christian is obvious: The world will contaminate your holiness, if you are not on guard against it.
     
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    For God to "place His name" on a Place or a person is to make it Holy unto the Lord. All of God's Holy attributes, laws, and promises are meant to instruct the ungodly heathen
    When professed believers defile the law /word of God, they profane the word of God itself;
    Rom2;
    17 Behold, thou art called a Jew, and restest in the law, and makest thy boast of God,

    18 And knowest his will, and approvest the things that are more excellent, being instructed out of the law;

    19 And art confident that thou thyself art a guide of the blind, a light of them which are in darkness,

    20 An instructor of the foolish, a teacher of babes, which hast the form of knowledge and of the truth in the law.

    21 Thou therefore which teachest another, teachest thou not thyself? thou that preachest a man should not steal, dost thou steal?

    22 Thou that sayest a man should not commit adultery, dost thou commit adultery? thou that abhorrest idols, dost thou commit sacrilege?

    23 Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God?

    24 For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written.
     
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    Strongs Concordance;

    Ezekiel 36:23 (King James Version)
    And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.


    Ezekiel 22:26

    Her priests have violated my law
    Or, "forced it" F9; they gave a wrong explanation of it, made it speak what it should not; they wrested the sense and meaning of it, and did and taught things contrary to it; they broke it themselves, who should have instructed others in it, and exhorted them to have kept it, and encouraged them by their own example: and have profaned my holy things;
    sacrifices and oblations, which were only to be offered and eaten by holy persons; they made them common to others who should not have partook of them: they have put no difference between the holy and the profane;
    between holy persons and things, and profane persons and things; they made no difference in their practice between the one and the other; but promiscuously conversed with holy and profane persons, and used holy and profane things, without distinguishing one from the other: neither have they showed the difference between the unclean and the
    clean:
    they did not show to the people, as was the duty of their office, what was clean or unclean for sacrifice; what was clean and allowed to be eaten, and what was unclean and forbid to be eaten; nor who were clean and who were unclean persons for conversation; who were to be kept company with, and who not: and have hid their eyes from my sabbaths;
    were not careful to observe them themselves, and connived at them that broke them; they might have seen men carrying burdens, and doing other servile works on such days, but they turned their eyes another way, and would not look at them; and when they did see them were silent, and would not reprove them: and I am profaned among them;
    for the law of God being profaned, his institutions profaned, and his sabbaths profaned, he himself was profaned; inasmuch as he was not sanctified by them, through the just observation of those things.
    The Targum is,

    ``my will is profaned among them.''
     
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    5 Behold, I have taught you statutes and judgments, even as the Lord my God commanded me, that ye should do so in the land whither ye go to possess it.

    6 Keep therefore and do them; for this is your wisdom and your understanding in the sight of the nations, which shall hear all these statutes, and say, Surely this great nation is a wise and understanding people.

    7 For what nation is there so great, who hath God so nigh unto them, as the Lord our God is in all things that we call upon him for?

    8 And what nation is there so great, that hath statutes and judgments so righteous as all this law, which I set before you this day?

    9 Only take heed to thyself, and keep thy soul diligently, lest thou forget the things which thine eyes have seen, and lest they depart from thy heart all the days of thy life: but teach them thy sons, and thy sons' sons;

    Deut9;
    4 Speak not thou in thine heart, after that the Lord thy God hath cast them out from before thee, saying, For my righteousness the Lord hath brought me in to possess this land: but for the wickedness of these nations the Lord doth drive them out from before thee.

    5 Not for thy righteousness, or for the uprightness of thine heart, dost thou go to possess their land: but for the wickedness of these nations the Lord thy God doth drive them out from before thee, and that he may perform the word which the Lord sware unto thy fathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

    6 Understand therefore, that the Lord thy God giveth thee not this good land to possess it for thy righteousness; for thou art a stiffnecked people.
     
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    I didn't read that.
     
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    What do you mean?
    what did you read?
     
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    [Ezekiel 37:28] Except within current history in some way, the last time God will do this will be during the Millennium, Revelation 20:1-6.
     
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    Wow. A LOT to review here. for a BBS post.

    will spend some time on this.
     
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    It's already taken place ,already begun and it's continuing to grow.
    Ezk34 Jesus in Jn.10
    Ezk 36 New birth jn3
    Ezk.37 elect remnant of Israel and grafted in Gentiles Acts2
    Ezk 38-39 enemies come against the church
    Exk40-48.
    Nt. Temple the church growing until the last day.
     
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    Consider ... Romans 8 ... “joint heirs with Christ.”

    Exodus 23 ... ‘my Name is in him” ... the angel sent to do the main battle for Joshua as the Hebrews entered Canaan. The angel who could forgive sin. The Son.

    His Name is on us through the perfect work of Jesus Christ.
     
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    Hello two wings
    All who profess to know the Lord and have a healthy respect for scripture should go all out to understand the gospel of the Kingdom.
    That implies trying to understand and connect all 66 books.
    As you consider this topic see if you can develop it more.
    Try and answer the questions in the OP.
     
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    All in good time, sir.

    Men a lot smarter than me have spent their entire lives dedicated to the study of this wondrous Book.

    I’ll be anxious for nothing ... including the expectations of another.

    You asked for a relevance to the New Covenant. That was the first relevance God reminded me when I asked. The conquest of Canaan, and the knowledge we are His. His name is upon us. By HIS amazing Grace.
     
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    Yes indeed. Good input.If you come across good info.offer it up!
     
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    Very, very interesting, @Iconoclast!
    Perhaps I might throw 2 Samuel 12:14 into the mix
    Surely it's about Christians being salt and light in the place where God has put us. And if that is so, then God's anger against many professing churches in these days must be greatly aroused.

    More later,
     
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    Yes...this study has deep roots all through scripture.
    2Sam.12 is spot on.
    The only thing that made the old covenant people special was God placing His Holy name among them.God dealing in Covenant love.They we're ungodly, but God...
    I also have more to add, thanks for your good post
     
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    During lockdown last year, I gave a series of four sermons on Youtube on what I called 'The Gospel of Ezekiel' based on Ezekiel 36:16-31; 37:1-14. The first sermon covered what's being discussed here.

    It was quite difficult preaching only to the cameraman, and I'm not very happy with my delivery (getting my excuses in early!), but perhaps it may be of interest to someone.
     
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    Your sermon was on target.
    Thanks for sharing
     
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