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Do people “choose to believe”?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by atpollard, Dec 31, 2021.

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    Not anywhere according to God's word. Not one Scripture.
     
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    One's faith does not cause one's salvation. God does. John 1:12-13.
     
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    I Peter 1:3

    3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
     
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    You have chosen to ignore God's word. You have chosen to ignore the correction of the word whoever. I leave you to your ignorance.
     
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    37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

    38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

    39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

    40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

    41 The Jews then murmured at him, because he said, I am the bread which came down from heaven.

    42 And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven?

    43 Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves.

    44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
     
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    Sort of … but there are “sheep” and there are “goats” (that only look like sheep when they are young) and there are “wolves in sheep clothing” (who are disguised so they can devour the sheep) all running around the same “sheep fold”.

    So “not all Israel is Israel” with some verses addressed to one and some to the other.
     
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    God gives EVERYONE the chance for salvation.
     
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    Sir, I know I CHOSE to believe. As a skeptical person, I won't believe anything without proof & evidence. But I found them by observing the lives of others, & carefully studying Scripture and history.
     
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    Right, but Jesus gave him many great chances to be saved. I don't know how long he accompanied Jesus during His ministry, but it's known Judas was a Zealot, same as the other Judas, & as a Zealot, Judas was hoping Jesus would use His power to free the Jews from Roman rule. When he realized Jesus wasn't gonna do that, Judas turned against Him. But still, just before the betrayal, Jesus gave him a chance to repent.
     
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    The ignorance is yours. You seem to believe God made robots.
     
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    Paul wrote that Jew, Greek, etc. are all alike in Christ. So the "goats" & "wolves" are not truly Christians. Such are the quasi/pseudo-Christian cults of today.
     
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    You project your view of God with your assertion. You cannot accept the God of scripture so you call the God of scripture a "robot maker."
     
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    Hooray!
    I think pretty much everything has been said ... more than once. ;)
     
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    I'll ignore your garbage for now.
     
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    Ignorance is your mo.
     
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    Hnow what PFFFTTT! means?
     
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