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Just so you know Salty... I know four but we are not as out spoken as this one... Brother Glen

Titus 3:1 Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work,

2 To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.

3 For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another.

4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,

5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;

7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

 

You forgot Texas!... Brother Glen

 

And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

What is the meaning of that verse relative to your thought?

 

I'm still trying to figure out how you remembered Joe and forgot Sonny?... I'll let it go for now but I got my eye on you... Brother Glen

 

I don't see what it has to do with the topic.

 

I have always thought the verse implied everybody dies then at some point after death they are judged. Does the judgement take place at death or at resurrection from the dead?

 

I think a better question is, Is this still a Baptist Board? With an activist moderator loudly, and unchecked, denying the substitutionary nature of the Atonement, that issue is in serious doubt.

Perhaps it's time this forum be absorbed into Christianforums.com , where orthodoxy goes to die.

 

If God could have replaced Israel through Moses and if He could 'of these rocks raise up children unto Abraham' I've no doubt He could have made do without Judas, who was needed to fulfill certain scriptures.

18 I speak not of you all: I know whom I have chosen: but that the scripture may be fulfilled: He that eateth my bread lifted up his heel against me. Jn 13

12 While I was with them, I kept them in thy name which thou hast given me: and I guarded them, and not one of them perished, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled. Jn 17

16 Brethren, it was needful that the Scripture should be fulfilled, which the Holy Spirit spake before by the mouth of David concerning Judas, who was guide to them that took Jesus.
17 For he was numbered among us, and received his portion in this ministry. Acts 1

 

When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved? But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible. Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore? And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Which twelve?

When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved? But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible. Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore? And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me in the regeneration, when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Does moving the comer change anything?

 

Mere membership in a Baptist church is not the only criterion. There are certain distinctives that, if denied, makes one other than a Baptist. Not merely the form of church government, and not merely believer's baptism or mode thereof, but the meaning contained in the rite.

Our Baptism signifies our identity in Christ on the Cross, and in His death. In other words, we testify of Christ with us, rather, we in Him.

It is through Him that we have received the penalty due our sin, and also through Him that it is impossible that the pains of death may hold us.

Romans 6:3-11

Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

For he that is dead is freed from sin.

Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:

Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.

For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.

Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
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Peter also pointed to this meaning in baptism, in allusion to the Ark. It is the 'like figure,' or eminent picture. Noah and his family entered the Ark. Judgement is poured out upon the world, and upon the Ark. But the Ark carried them through the judgment. Bore the judgement on it's own body in Noah's place. The judgment lifted the Ark and cast it down. And Noah and his family in it. But the judgment didn't come near any of them. It didn't touch any of them.

The judgment could not swallow the Ark, because of its design; because of its nature.

And so because it is impossible that the Son could be held by the pains of death, He prevailed over the judgment of God, and we in Him.

That's what we signify in Baptism. Christ is our substitute. That's the Baptist faith message.

Can you really say that Jesus did not receive our due in our place, and be considered a Baptist?